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[TwistedEcho]

The button is this hand has just moved to my table, bought in for $20 and not played a hand for the first orbit. This is the first hand he gets involved in. Obviously at 25/50c the play is fairly loose, but i wasn't too sure where i stood in this hand when it got to the river. Should i still have capped this all the way?Absolute Poker 25/50c Hold'em (6 handed) Preflop: Hero is SB with K , K : . 2 folds, CO calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button caps, Hero calls, CO calls.Flop: K , A , 2 (3 players) Hero bets, CO calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button caps, Hero calls, CO callsTurn: J (3 players) Hero bets, CO folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls. River: 7 (2 players) Hero checks, Button raises, Hero calls. Final Pot : 23bbEDIT - as a side note, why doesn't the converter seem to like absolute when it says it accepts it? I copied the hand into it, but it wouldnt process it correctly so i had to write this out myself

[bdc30]

Played it right IMONo point in capping it on the river when the 3rd flush card comes up. The pot is already big enough.If you lost to a guy chasing a flush for the max bet the wholeway, then just mark it in his player notes and make himpay for it at another time down the road where his garbage flush draw doesn't get there.

[Makata]

I think river check/call is correct, but not because of the flush possibility. I'd say there's a 90+% chance he's just playing AK/AJ/JJ FAR too aggressively, perhaps something as weak as AQ. Of the remaining 10%, I'd say 9% of the time in this situation he really does have the AA. Try and put yourself in his position; even really bad aggressive players tend to slow down once 3 bet on the turn with anything less than a set/nut straight/high flush. I think it's MORE likely he's simply overplaying AK/AJ, but thats simply due to the fact there's 4 ways to AK, 9 ways to AJ, 3 ways to JJ, 12 ways to AQ, but only 3 ways to AA.The last 1% of the time I'd say he either river flushed you or turn straighted you. I've actually seen a player cap preflop heads up out of position, cap the flop, cap turn, and lead river .. with 35c. Flop was 4c. Turn 2c. River 6c. It made me seriously question the possibility of some means of cheating just due to the sheer wow factor of capping such a poor hand yet running the absolute nuts.So I think it's definately POSSIBLE he's just a gambling idiot who made his draw against an excellent hand (yours), but definately 9 times out of 10 you're winning here. The only problem is there's every indication that he'll continue to raise if you raise, and there ARE 3 seperate types of hands that COULD beat you (AA, QT, xxh), so you simply have to call the last bet and expect to take it the vast majority of the time.

[Smiff85]

in this situation your lookin at AA or AK, with AA being most likely the way the hand played out. I think river check/call os fine. Don't know if i'd of been able to slow down at all but you made the right decision.A

[TwistedEcho]

Well i figured at this limit level, they play so many hands i do beat this badly, so shouldn't i go ahead and cap the river, when most of the times i'll win, and occasionally run into the bigger hand?As it happens, he showed pockets threes (WTF?) and i won a nice pot

[Kendren]

BTW: I only count 22BB in there. You might have SB and BB confused there. Otherwise, nh. I might go ahead and c/r the river, and call a 3 bet, but I don't give people credit for things like that. But yeah, 33 is a pretty typical hand to find .25/.50 maniacs betting with. I like taking their money

[Whatever]

I discount the flush draw because of the way he played the hand. I've only seen a set of kings vs a set of aces a couple of times in all my hands so I'd go ahead and cap the river there. I understand slowing down though.QT? Not likely at all.