All_In, on Friday, October 28th, 2011, 12:51 AM, said:
thanks guys, appreciate the input. it's been a while since i've played and knew my fundamentals (what little i had) had deteriorated.i am also trying to become better at cash games...nice point about not limping from the CO, but won't people assume u r stealing with a raise? i thought i read that limping on the button can be good these days because everyone expects a raise, is it different from the CO, or is my info now obsolete/not valid to begin with?i bought in for 20. i know that's short, it's what my friends and i do when we play against each other w/ .25/.50 blinds, so i was a bit more comfortable with it. i am not rolled for these limits, just taking a shot.pretty sure the B was steaming, even with the $$ involved. i assumed that the SB would also think this way, so he would raise to win pf. that's why i raised the SB. i guess it was fancy play syndrome, i was close to shoving before i came to my senses.i'll look at that pdf, thanks, and thanks all again (even picard)!
Never read anyone advocating a button limp as optimal.That is the beautiful thing about raising the button. They know your stealing, you know they know, you are stealing. However there is so little they can do about it. Position is just so powerful. It is the basis of reg wars. You raise light so they 3 bet light. They 3bet light so you defend light and float or bluff raise flop cbets. or you 4bet light. They shove over 4 bets light, you call light. So you are both doing things light, The major difference in all this is, (1) they have to place money into the pot at the start 100% of the time. (2) you are always in position. Don't be worried about them knowing you are raising light. Chances are they know and they also know there is little they can do about it. The regs will eventually start to test you with light 3bets, but that is poker.My range for raising the button in an unopened pot. 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q8s+,J7s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,A2o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J8o+,T8o+,98o,87o,76o or 42% of all hands dealt. However if they don't fight back then I will just keep adding hands until I'm playing all suited cards and all unsuited connecting cards, or 70% of hands. If they do start fighting back, I'll remove some hands from the 42% and start 4 betting and calling 3bets lighter. Also they are now playing more hands out of position which in my opinion is going to be worth more then the blinds most days. Don't play 42% of hands if you don't feel comfortable but Don't be afraid of them knowing you are going to be playing light in a position, just do it and adjust
if they don't take it sitting down.