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#41 Balloon guy

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 05:18 PM

View PostLongLiveYorke, on Saturday, June 11th, 2011, 3:08 PM, said:

Not sure if your response is a joke (because it's somewhat hilariously misses the point).But, if it's not a joke, then my point remains: how do you know what to have faith in? Clearly you don't have faith in someone being swallowed by a whale. The why in Jesus' resurrection?
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 11:16 PM

Who said we don't think it's possible that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish? (the Bible doesn't say whale)

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 01:27 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Saturday, June 11th, 2011, 6:18 PM, said:

A valid point when you don't believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible
Not so much that I dont believe, as in I dont get it.How can something be taken literal, when the meaning of an event is so translational dependent.For example, if the bible is completely literally true, than God is into some really over the top, theatrics, making use of special effects that would shame spielberg.Why destroy all life with a fantastic flood, taking place over 40 days and nights. When, being God , he coulda just snapped a finger, and accomplish the same result.If he could create the universe in 7 days, then why did it take 40 to redo the earth.Its not literal, but it is meaningfull.
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 05:22 PM

View Postbrvheart, on Sunday, June 12th, 2011, 12:16 AM, said:

Who said we don't think it's possible that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish? (the Bible doesn't say whale)
He survived.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:08 PM

View Postbrvheart, on Sunday, June 12th, 2011, 3:16 AM, said:

Who said we don't think it's possible that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish? (the Bible doesn't say whale)
It's "whale" in the KJV, which I would agree is a mistranslation.
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:11 PM

View PostBaseJester, on Sunday, June 12th, 2011, 9:08 PM, said:

It's "whale" in the KJV, which I would agree is a mistranslation.
http://bibleresource...a...7&version=9

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:11 PM

View Postvbnautilus, on Sunday, June 12th, 2011, 8:22 PM, said:

He survived.
You're forgetting the God part.

View PostiZuma, on 20 August 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 11:54 PM

View Postbrvheart, on Monday, June 13th, 2011, 1:11 AM, said:

Right, in the Jonah 1:17 it's a "big fish", but when Jesus refers to the story in Mattew 12:40, it's a "whale".

'Matthew' said:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
My only point is that the notion that Jonah was swallowed by a whale isn't something ignorant non-believers came up with.
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:42 AM

View Postbrvheart, on Sunday, June 12th, 2011, 3:16 AM, said:

Who said we don't think it's possible that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish? (the Bible doesn't say whale)
I was simply responding to the earlier poster who set down the framework that some parts of the bible are allegorical.Also, I've never understood the knee-jerk reaction to the Jonah story where people insist that it was a "fish," not a whale. "Oh, it was a fish? Then, yeah, it's perfectly realistic for him to have been eaten and reemerge days later. But a whale, no, that would never happen." :club:(BTW, the first such argument that I'm aware of comes from Inherit the Wind, no?)

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:46 AM

Yeah, it could be a sea snake for all I care. If God is involved, things don't have to be naturally possible. I agree with your sentiment though.Base: touche.

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 07:41 AM

I also doubt that people knew back then that whales are not fishes.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 01:07 PM

A teacher in class is talking about whales and says that even though a whale is a very large animal, it's throat is too small to swallow a humanA little girl says: "What about the story of Jonah and the whale?"The teacher begins getting irritated and states that a whale cannot swallow a human.The little girl says "When I get to heaven I will just ask Jonah.""What if Jonah is in hell?" The teacher quipped."Then you can ask him." said the little girl.
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 01:15 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Monday, June 13th, 2011, 5:07 PM, said:

A teacher in class is talking about whales and says that even though a whale is a very large animal, it's throat is too small to swallow a humanA little girl says: "What about the story of Jonah and the whale?"The teacher begins getting irritated and states that a whale cannot swallow a human.The little girl says "When I get to heaven I will just ask Jonah.""What if Jonah is in hell?" The teacher quipped."Then you can ask him." said the little girl.
Ha ha, it's funny because you believe in a religion where people who don't automatically assume that it's possible for a man to survive with the belly of a fish for a number of days based on a 5,000 year old book will endure eternal torment and torture ha ha.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 01:31 PM

View PostLongLiveYorke, on Monday, June 13th, 2011, 2:15 PM, said:

Ha ha, it's funny because you believe in a religion where people who don't automatically assume that it's possible for a man to survive with the belly of a fish for a number of days based on a 5,000 year old book will endure eternal torment and torture ha ha.
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 01:48 PM

View Postvbnautilus, on Monday, June 13th, 2011, 8:41 AM, said:

I also doubt that people knew back then that whales are not fishes.
Well, most people were farmers back then.
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Posted 15 June 2011 - 09:58 AM

View Postvbnautilus, on Monday, June 13th, 2011, 8:41 AM, said:

I also doubt that people knew back then that whales are not fishes.
Did people back then even know what a whale was?I dont know, but are whales part of the middle east eco system?
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Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:42 PM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on Wednesday, June 15th, 2011, 10:58 AM, said:

Did people back then even know what a whale was?I dont know, but are whales part of the middle east eco system?
Yes, there are whales in the Mediterranean Sea. (also in the Arabian Sea).

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:01 AM

View Postvbnautilus, on Wednesday, June 15th, 2011, 9:42 PM, said:

Yes, there are whales in the Mediterranean Sea. (also in the Arabian Sea).
And since there are now, there have always been.
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 12:31 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Thursday, June 16th, 2011, 9:01 AM, said:

And since there are now, there have always been.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:04 PM

Ever consider the fact that maybe it wasnt whale or a fish, but was in fact a submarine of some sort.There are events in the bible that can reasonably represent an alien visit of some type.
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