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#21 phlegm

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:10 AM

View PostRoll the Bones, on Wednesday, May 11th, 2011, 10:51 AM, said:

Well, the Seals did just kill Obama. Coincindence? I think not!
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:55 AM

I wish these Christians would be willing to put their convictions where there mouth is. If the the rapture happens on the 21st I would be willing to pledge to become a fully believing Christian. So why is it that none of these people are willing to reject a literal interpretation of the Bible if it doesn't happen?

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 01:37 PM

View PostSilentSnow, on Thursday, May 12th, 2011, 2:55 PM, said:

I wish these Christians would be willing to put their convictions where there mouth is. If the the rapture happens on the 21st I would be willing to pledge to become a fully believing Christian. So why is it that none of these people are willing to reject a literal interpretation of the Bible if it doesn't happen?
The Bible doesn't say anything about the rapture happening on the 21st. It actually says that no one will know the time, including the angels and Jesus, so they wouldn't need to reject a literal interpretation of the Bible, they would just need to start believing in a literal interpretation.

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:14 AM

View Postbrvheart, on Thursday, May 12th, 2011, 5:37 PM, said:

The Bible doesn't say anything about the rapture happening on the 21st. It actually says that no one will know the time, including the angels and Jesus, so they wouldn't need to reject a literal interpretation of the Bible, they would just need to start believing in a literal interpretation.
Dang, Brvy, sorry no one gave you the code book. You have to be able to decipher the codes, geez, I thought everyone knew that. OH well, guess you're going to hell like the rest of us.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:17 AM

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:20 AM

View PostRoll the Bones, on Saturday, May 14th, 2011, 10:17 AM, said:

That could just as well be run by a Christian group. Pretty much everyone thinks they're crazy.

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:22 AM

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:42 AM

View Postbrvheart, on Thursday, May 12th, 2011, 2:37 PM, said:

The Bible doesn't say anything about the rapture happening on the 21st. It actually says that no one will know the time, including the angels and Jesus, so they wouldn't need to reject a literal interpretation of the Bible, they would just need to start believing in a literal interpretation.
According to you. But no one can agree on how to interpret the bible. It would be one thing if all Christians believed one thing and all Atheists another. The thousands of different christian interpretations are a de facto proof that biblical literalism is fundamentally illogical.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:21 AM

View PostSilentSnow, on Saturday, May 14th, 2011, 8:42 AM, said:

According to you. But no one can agree on how to interpret the bible. It would be one thing if all Christians believed one thing and all Atheists another. The thousands of different christian interpretations are a de facto proof that biblical literalism is fundamentally illogical.
The bible is not literally true.Jonah got no more swallowed by a whale than pinocchio did.But just cause it aint literal, doesnt mean there isnt a God, or Jesus wasnt divine.
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 07:46 PM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on Wednesday, June 8th, 2011, 3:21 PM, said:

The bible is not literally true.Jonah got no more swallowed by a whale than pinocchio did.But just cause it aint literal, doesnt mean there isnt a God, or Jesus wasnt divine.
Right.Wait, what? Then how do we know which is which? Do we just follow our common sense?What happens when our common sense tells us that a person coming back to life probably isn't real?

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 08:35 PM

View PostSilentSnow, on Saturday, May 14th, 2011, 11:42 AM, said:

According to you.
It really does say that. I don't think it's a matter of opinion.

'Matthew' said:

29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.32“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.36“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
You might argue that all of the signs of Revelation contradict this, but nevertheless it's a fact that the bible says that the day of the second coming cannot be known. Religious people believing otherwise just proves that some people want to, not that biblical literalism itself is illogical. The prediction of a dead person riding clouds to earth makes biblical literalism illogical.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 11:51 AM

View PostBaseJester, on Wednesday, June 8th, 2011, 9:35 PM, said:

It really does say that. I don't think it's a matter of opinion.You might argue that all of the signs of Revelation contradict this, but nevertheless it's a fact that the bible says that the day of the second coming cannot be known. Religious people believing otherwise just proves that some people want to, not that biblical literalism itself is illogical. The prediction of a dead person riding clouds to earth makes biblical literalism illogical.
But does it really mean that? What the bible really means is pretty much always a matter of opinion. It's also a fact that some Christians believe that the day can be known. That there is no standard whatsoever for biblical interpretation proves that biblical literalism is illogical. You don't even need to bother with assessing the factual basis for the various competing claims.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 12:02 PM

View PostSilentSnow, on Thursday, June 9th, 2011, 12:51 PM, said:

But does it really mean that? What the bible really means is pretty much always a matter of opinion. It's also a fact that some Christians believe that the day can be known. That there is no standard whatsoever for biblical interpretation proves that biblical literalism is illogical. You don't even need to bother with assessing the factual basis for the various competing claims.
I'm so confused.What is biblical literalism? I assumed it meant that you take the Bible literally.Edit: You don't have to answer that, I'll just google it.2nd edit: Still confused by you.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 12:34 PM

View PostSkeleton Jelly, on Thursday, June 9th, 2011, 1:02 PM, said:

I'm so confused.What is biblical literalism? I assumed it meant that you take the Bible literally.Edit: You don't have to answer that, I'll just google it.2nd edit: Still confused by you.
What I mean is that two standards have to be met to reasonably interpret the bible literally-1.there has to be a fairly universal agreement as to what the bible is actually saying. 2.this interpretation has to reasonably agree with the verifiable facts. Since standard one is not met(not even close in my opinion) then we don't have to bother with factually refuting a particular interpretation.If standard 1 is not met then a literalist is saying that a)the large majority of people interpret the bible incorrectly and b)the bible provides a clear standard by which people can guide their beliefs. It is not logical to hold both of these beliefs.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 01:22 PM

View PostSilentSnow, on Thursday, June 9th, 2011, 1:34 PM, said:

2.this interpretation has to reasonably agree with the verifiable facts.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:56 PM

View PostSilentSnow, on Thursday, June 9th, 2011, 3:34 PM, said:

What I mean is that two standards have to be met to reasonably interpret the bible literally-1.there has to be a fairly universal agreement as to what the bible is actually saying. 2.this interpretation has to reasonably agree with the verifiable facts. Since standard one is not met(not even close in my opinion) then we don't have to bother with factually refuting a particular interpretation.If standard 1 is not met then a literalist is saying that a)the large majority of people interpret the bible incorrectly and b)the bible provides a clear standard by which people can guide their beliefs. It is not logical to hold both of these beliefs.
Wait, so you're saying if one person (Harold Camping) doesn't agree then it's not universal? I mean, I guess 120 people signed up for this pet service, so that means it's not universal... right?

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 11:07 PM

View Postbrvheart, on Thursday, June 9th, 2011, 4:56 PM, said:

Wait, so you're saying if one person (Harold Camping) doesn't agree then it's not universal? I mean, I guess 120 people signed up for this pet service, so that means it's not universal... right?
Everyone doesn't have to agree. Reasonableness of Biblical Literalism=% agreement on meaning x consistency with facts. But since facts are part of the formula you're going to want agreement to be as high as possible.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 12:30 AM

View PostSilentSnow, on Friday, June 10th, 2011, 2:07 AM, said:

Everyone doesn't have to agree. Reasonableness of Biblical Literalism=% agreement on meaning x consistency with facts. But since facts are part of the formula you're going to want agreement to be as high as possible.
Then by that definition, it's a universal Christian belief that we can not know what Jesus will return. Since that is what the Bible literally says.

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napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 07:03 PM

View PostLongLiveYorke, on Wednesday, June 8th, 2011, 8:46 PM, said:

Right.Wait, what? Then how do we know which is which? Do we just follow our common sense?What happens when our common sense tells us that a person coming back to life probably isn't real?
It just comes down to Faith, Jesus favorite virtue.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:08 PM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on Friday, June 10th, 2011, 11:03 PM, said:

It just comes down to Faith, Jesus favorite virtue.
Not sure if your response is a joke (because it's somewhat hilariously misses the point).But, if it's not a joke, then my point remains: how do you know what to have faith in? Clearly you don't have faith in someone being swallowed by a whale. The why in Jesus' resurrection?




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