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#1 cdipierr

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 08:54 AM

I haven't played online in forever, so decided to jump in 2+2 Pokercast league 6-max last night for fun. I'm probably way out of it when it comes to MTT strategy and 6-max always feels like they're running me over. This is about 15 hands into the tournament and thus far I'm probably about averagely active at the table, but had folded around 5-6 hands in a row:Posted ImageFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($5.00+$0.50) t10/t20 - 6 playersCO: t1,875 Button: t2,180 SB: t1,920 BB: t2,135 UTG: t1,990 UTG+1: t1,900 (Hero)Preflop: (t30) Hero is UTG+1 with :jh :4h (6 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to t60, 3 folds, BB calls t40Flop: (t130) :ts :3h :club: (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80Turn: (t290) :5c (2 players)BB bets t120, Hero calls t120River: (t530) :qh (2 players)BB bets t320Hero?Can people give me a line check on this, especially the turn and river? I realize I could have folded pre, but after that, it's basically the goal to get it in on the river with the 2nd nuts, right?

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 08:59 AM

i'd prolly bet a little more on the turn since we picked up another draw...nh
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 09:00 AM

Never not trying to get it in on the river.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 09:06 AM

View PostTrueAce13, on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011, 4:59 PM, said:

i'd prolly bet a little more on the turn since we picked up another draw...nh
we got led into on the turn thou
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 09:11 AM

View PostHighwayStar, on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011, 9:06 AM, said:

we got led into on the turn thou
i can read pretty well i guess
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 10:18 AM

Ok, thanks guys. At least my time off hasn't killed this level reasoning for me :)We did get it in on the river and well BBFIDTS I suppose. Just wanted to make sure it was unavoidable.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:10 PM

It was avoidable. Fold PF. If you feel like youre getting run over at 6 max its because you play hands like this in EP! Play very tight UTG, UTG+1, and very loose first in at CO and Button. When you do play EP (early in the tourney so stacks are still fairly deep), raise 4x, CO 3x and Button 2x. The reasons for the bet sizing should be obvious if you think about it a little.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:19 PM

if the table sucks, which it probably does, raising k7cc isn't that bad.

View Postakashenk, on 02 August 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:22 PM

View Postany2canlose, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 3:10 PM, said:

It was avoidable. Fold PF. If you feel like youre getting run over at 6 max its because you play hands like this in EP! Play very tight UTG, UTG+1, and very loose first in at CO and Button. When you do play EP (early in the tourney so stacks are still fairly deep), raise 4x, CO 3x and Button 2x. The reasons for the bet sizing should be obvious if you think about it a little.
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:23 PM

View Postdonk4life, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 3:19 PM, said:

if the table sucks, which it probably does, raising k7cc isn't that bad.
Vehemently disagree. Even at this level players arent so incompetent that K7s OOP is profitable at 100 deep.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:31 PM

View Postany2canlose, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 5:23 PM, said:

Vehemently disagree. Even at this level players arent so incompetent that K7s OOP is profitable at 100 deep.
yeah, they are. you just have to be comfortable enough to play a hand like k7ss, and there's no guarantee it's going to be oop anyways.players are so bad postflop, which is why a hand like this is okay to raise utg. i'm not saying i would do it, but there's merit to it.

View Postakashenk, on 02 August 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:33 PM

View Postdonk4life, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 3:31 PM, said:

yeah, they are. you just have to be comfortable enough to play a hand like k7ss, and there's no guarantee it's going to be oop anyways.players are so bad postflop, which is why a hand like this is okay to raise utg. i'm not saying i would do it, but there's merit to it.

View PostTrueAce13, on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011, 9:00 AM, said:

just r/f a lot
seems to go well together!
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:47 PM

View PostTrueAce13, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 3:33 PM, said:

seems to go well together!
careful...different situations. R/f a lot was in the context of having a dominating stack and full ring. Even stacks and 6 max is a totally different game!

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:48 PM

i don't see how r/fing a lot is good in any situation,unless you're ta13

View Postakashenk, on 02 August 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:50 PM

its rough being TA13 at times
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:36 PM

Fold Pre.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 11:29 PM

It's 6 max so UTG+1 is technically the same as the HJ 9 handed so hands we play from the HJ we can play UTG+1 in 6 max. I'm about 50/50 on raising K7ss here and I think it's okay either way if you can play post flop. However, I'm raising to 80 preflop. As for calling the river, hell yeah I'm calling the river - never folding a king high flush on this board, if he has an ace high flush oh well that's poker.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 11:42 PM

View PostDiamondDixie, on Sunday, February 13th, 2011, 2:29 AM, said:

However, I'm raising to 80 preflop.
why?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:20 AM

View PostTehtoe, on Saturday, February 12th, 2011, 11:42 PM, said:

why?
+1 (and i'm not trying to be a dick, really wanna hear)
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:13 AM

nah fold pre dude, the best reason to fold pre I can give is to basically repeat something I saw on another website/heard a friend say and not understand it myself




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