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[FCP Bob]

hblask, on 26 June 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

What real news organization would even publish something so stupid? "We shouldn't cover the news because it might upset some people". Really? They thought that was good enough to publish? When the story involved hundreds of deaths? Something has gone awry at CNN when an editorial like this doesn't get laughed out of the newsroom.

It isn't an editorial it's a column from one of their weekly columnists. They don't censor or edit their columnists I imagine.

hblask, on 26 June 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

.I generally think they are OK, too, although that blonde woman is not the brightest bulb. But that's probably not why they hired her.

They have her on to be the Liberal co-host along side the Conservative Scarborough and also because of who her Father is.

[hblask]

FCP Bob, on 26 June 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

It isn't an editorial it's a column from one of their weekly columnists. They don't censor or edit their columnists I imagine.They have her on to be the Liberal co-host along side the Conservative Scarborough and also because of who her Father is.

Is Joe really that conservative? From what I've seen he's sort of mixed. And who is her father?

[FCP Bob]

hblask, on 26 June 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Is Joe really that conservative? From what I've seen he's sort of mixed. And who is her father?

When he was in Congress he was considered one of the most Fiscally Conservative but he isn't a brain dead ideologue and he isn't a social conservative nutjob.Her Father is Zbigniew Brzezinski

[CaneBrain]

I mean, come on Henry. CNN also publishes anti-drug columns from William Bennet (former drug czar and staunch conservative) at least twice a year. It's literally the most retarded column every time. It doesn't mean CNN believes any of that.LZ Granderson is a former ESPN Page 2 columnist and is generally worthless and no one cares what he thinks.Joe Scarborough is a Republican. It is not surprising he is not an Obama fan. At least MSNBC will allow something like that on their airwaves. Every Fox employee has a chip implanted to render them unconscious if they get out of line.Feels like you have a lot of pent-up outrage lately.

[hblask]

CaneBrain, on 26 June 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I mean, come on Henry. CNN also publishes anti-drug columns from William Bennet (former drug czar and staunch conservative) at least twice a year. It's literally the most retarded column every time. It doesn't mean CNN believes any of that.LZ Granderson is a former ESPN Page 2 columnist and is generally worthless and no one cares what he thinks.Joe Scarborough is a Republican. It is not surprising he is not an Obama fan. At least MSNBC will allow something like that on their airwaves. Every Fox employee has a chip implanted to render them unconscious if they get out of line.Feels like you have a lot of pent-up outrage lately.

OK, I'll give CNN a little break on this, but if I was this guy's boss he'd be looking for a new job. He basically said "I don't want to do my job anymore because it's too messy." That'd be like me telling my boss I shouldn't have to program hard stuff because it makes me tired.The reason I didn't know about Scarborough is mainly because I only see short clips of him a couple times per month. I've seen him defending Obama on crazy left-wing schemes, and I've seen him defending the R's on some of their crazy stuff (and the good side of both, also). Basically, I've seen him all over, but based on what I've seen, I would've guessed that he was every-so-slightly left of center.... sort of where much of this forum ended up when we had that four-quadrant graph up for a while. I'm a bit surprised to hear he was a big fiscal conservative.

[FCP Bob]

Exhaustive investigation by Fortune on the Fast and Furious issue.If it's accurate the narrative that they knowingly let guns get to the cartels is wrong.The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal

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Quite simply, there's a fundamental misconception at the heart of the Fast and Furious scandal.Nobody disputes that suspected straw purchasers under surveillance by the ATF repeatedly bought guns that eventually fell into criminal hands. Issa and others charge that the ATF intentionally allowed guns to walk as an operational tactic. But five law-enforcement agents directly involved in Fast and Furious tell Fortune that the ATF had no such tactic. They insist they never purposefully allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. Just the opposite: They say they seized weapons whenever they could but were hamstrung by prosecutors and weak laws, which stymied them at every turn.Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies. Fortune reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential ATF documents and interviewed 39 people, including seven law-enforcement agents with direct knowledge of the case. Several, including Voth, are speaking out for the first time.How Fast and Furious reached the headlines is a strange and unsettling saga, one that reveals a lot about politics and media today. It's a story that starts with a grudge, specifically Dodson's anger at Voth. After the terrible murder of agent Terry, Dodson made complaints that were then amplified, first by right-wing bloggers, then by CBS. Rep. Issa and other politicians then seized those elements to score points against the Obama administration, which, for its part, has capitulated in an apparent effort to avoid a rhetorical battle over gun control in the run-up to the presidential election. (A Justice Department spokesperson denies this and asserts that the department is not drawing conclusions until the inspector general's report is submitted.)

[hblask]

FCP Bob, on 27 June 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

Exhaustive investigation by Fortune on the Fast and Furious issue.If it's accurate the narrative that they knowingly let guns get to the cartels is wrong.The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out, but I'd bet on knowledge way up the chain and a high-level coverup. Obama's move just reinforces that. I'm hearing rumors across the internet that some hard evidence is coming out before the election. If it doesn't, we can assume the whole thing was a political charade. But I've been hearing the rumors for 2 years, since before it was in the headlines, so I can't just dismiss them.

[AmScray]

FCP Bob, on 27 June 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

Exhaustive investigation by Fortune on the Fast and Furious issue.If it's accurate the narrative that they knowingly let guns get to the cartels is wrong.The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal

LOL.Ever heard a con talk about his conviction?There's always an elaborate series of interrelated excuses and conspiracies that caused it to happen. It's never that he ****ed up, the facts on the surface are accurate, it is what it is. No, the failings of other people brought it all about.Most of that article smacked of damage control.There probably is some truth in there- some legitimate complaints about procedure and policy- but none of that allays what they undeniably did do. Also, if you think cops won't lie to protect other cops, maybe Canadians are more naive than I had originally thought (which would be mind-blowing because I basically view all of you as small wide-eyed children wandering around and looking towards the sky holding one of those oversize lollipops in one hand, dragging a stuffed bunny rabbit in the other).Cops blaming 'weak prosecutors' is their standard foil, whenever they're shown to be lazy and/or bumbling ****ups. "It's just those damn prosecutors!" or ".. the civilians have too many damn rights standing in our way!"Read that article from an objective vantage- as opposed to a partisan one, where it's a surrogate for Obama and thusly requires offense or defense- there is a lot of very troubling shit in there, as far as how any given ATF office might conduct themselves. And that's just what was put into a memo.

[Balloon guy]

It's never the crime anyway, it's the cover up that brings down the politicians

[akoff]

STOCKTON: The City of Stockton, CA is filing for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 9 of the U. S. bankruptcy code. It will be the largest city (300,000 residents; $700 million in debt) to ever seek Chapter 9 protection. The city has suffered from two common municipal ailments: 1) falling real estate values, and 2) soaring pension costs. Median home prices have fallen from $407,000 in 2005 to $118,000 in February 2012. Pension costs are expected to increase 94% over the next ten years.just the first of many to come.

[CaneBrain]

A great example of why a state income tax is better than relying on property taxes solely.

[DJ Vu]

LongLiveYorke, on 23 June 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

I also think that if Jews ate more bananas, they could have left banana peels all over their houses that the Nazis would have slipped over. Some of them may have fallen and gotten hurt.Are you seriously saying that a house without banana peels is less well defended than a house with one?

I once saw somebody actually slip on a banana peel. It was funny because I didn't think that sort of thing really happened.

[JubilantLankyLad]

DJ Vu, on 02 July 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

I once saw somebody actually slip on a banana peel. It was funny because I didn't think that sort of thing really happened.

A friend of mine once slipped on a banana peel, and let me tell you, it was nothing like a warm apple pie.

[AmScray]

akoff, on 02 July 2012 - 05:37 AM, said:

STOCKTON: The City of Stockton, CA is filing for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 9 of the U. S. bankruptcy code. It will be the largest city (300,000 residents; $700 million in debt) to ever seek Chapter 9 protection. The city has suffered from two common municipal ailments: 1) falling real estate values, and 2) soaring pension costs. Median home prices have fallen from $407,000 in 2005 to $118,000 in February 2012. Pension costs are expected to increase 94% over the next ten years.just the first of many to come.

Yep, and a great example of the sort of tail risk that muni bond holders don't ever consider while enjoying all those tax free yields.You're right, there will be more. I made a pretty extensive post about this in 2009, was laughed at. Said it would take 3-5 years to play out. So far, right on track. Wait until we get our first state default.You can only ignore basic mathematical truth for so long.

[Balloon guy]

Hanging at the cigar store this am and listening to a guy tell me about his brother ( teacher in small rural area in so cal ) who is retired and pulling down $8,400 a month. His sister pulls down about $7,500 a month as a former prison secretary, and his other brother pulls down a full $9,200 a month from his retirement in the prison system.He's the oldest, and is about 62 years old, so I guess his siblings can pull down healthy retirements for the next 20 years.I'm sure its an anomaly.

[InternetExplorer]

I need to figure out how to properly execute this pulldown maneuver.

[InternetExplorer]

these big companies, they just pull everything down

[LongLiveYorke]

InternetExplorer, on 03 July 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

these big companies, they just pull everything down

You don't even know what a "pull down" is.

[Dagata]

LongLiveYorke, on 04 July 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

You don't even know what a "pull down" is.

Its like a push up, but for fat people

[ShakeZuma]

BUT THEY DO AND THEY'RE THE ONES PULLING IT DOWN BOOM ZUMA FOR THE SAVE