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[MaxStPolish]

A pack of feral cows sucked on each other's cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($5.00+$5.00) t15/t30 - 2 playersBB: t1,410 Button: t1,590 (Hero)Preflop: (t45) Hero is Button with (2 players)Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30Flop: (t120) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t90, BB calls t90Turn: (t300) (2 players)BB bets t120, Hero calls t120River: (t540) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t270, BB raises to t750, Hero foldsBB collected t1080Is my river fold okay? I just could not figure out what I'm beating here short of a straight bluff. The fact that he check raises really threw me for a loop. Admittedly NLHE HU is one of my worst games...that said I feel like i'm at least getting a little better at the ebb and flow. Does he really check/raise Kx here after leading out on the turn? I feel like I got hijacked here, but I just really didn't feel like this guy was just about stacking off on a desperation river bluff either.

[MaxStPolish]

Hand #2.Well i survived the above matchup. Made it to the 5th match (sweet 16). Top 8 pay out. Like 4th hand this comes up? What's the right play? I love my hand post flop....what should I be doing? Check turn for pot control? Check river and make really tough decision on his bet? Or are 3 streets of betting okay, setting sizing up for a river all in? I dunno. I hope this is a cooler hand and nothing more. I'm novice enough tho that it's well worth the questionbeware the feral cow packs. they hunger.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($5.00+$5.00) t10/t20 - 2 playersBB: t1,480 (Hero)Button: t1,520 Preflop: (t30) Hero is BB with (2 players)Button raises to t40, Hero calls t20Flop: (t80) (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets t40, Hero raises to t140, Button calls t100Turn: (t360) (2 players)Hero bets t280, Button calls t280River: (t920) (2 players)Hero bets t1020 and is all-in, Button calls t1020Hero showed , and lost with two pair, Kings and ThreesButton showed , and won (2960) with three of a kind, Threes

[donk4life]

I think you played both hands perfectly. Second one just fold preflop, yeah it's only a minraise but you don't want yourself getting involved with hands like k3 oop. Rest of the hand is just a cooler.I don't think there's anything you can do differently in hand 1, good sizing, flatting turn is way better than any other option, and river is an easy bet/fold.nhs.

[cdipierr]

I think in hand 1, I just check back the river. This is a scary board because some decent holdings have you beat. I can only really see getting paid by a random J or QT. In my opinion it's ok to miss value in those specific spots to prevent losing more than we have to. I realize this might be too passive, but early on in heads up, that's how I'd play it.

[KingJames]

What Ian said!Also, I agree that hand 2 is a cooler, except folding pre is wayyyy better! But you should exclude results so we're not biased

[TrueAce13]

nah, we have to value river on hand one, but yeh hand 2 fold pre, nh after

[rrumsey]

im fine with hand 1. you could mayyyybe check the turn on hand one, but void of reads i would be bet folding. and maybe betting slightly bigger to not give away we are bet folding. depends on how the game has gone so far a little. but in a vacuum fine.hand 2, just dont call OOP preflop unless you have some metagame play in mind. i just hate calling OOP pre for the most part like 90% of all spots. sometimes good but most the time no bueno

[MaxStPolish]

KingJames, on Wednesday, January 19th, 2011, 11:00 AM, said:

What Ian said!Also, I agree that hand 2 is a cooler, except folding pre is wayyyy better! But you should exclude results so we're not biased

I tried hiding results in 2nd hand, but it just hid text and still showed the bright, colorful, feral cow cards :)thx guys.

[custom36]

I absolutely play both hands the way you played them. Well done sir.

[rrumsey]

omg didnt even read past preflop on hand 2. i would be playing the hand so differently. checking the flop is the only thing we have that is the same tbh. c/r isnt terrible on the flop tbh. def pot control the turn. river as played isnt bad, but i think its thin this early to be getting it in with top nothing kicker. i would prefer to have some metagame set up b4 im trying to rep a busted st8 draw and try to induce a hero call.

[MaxStPolish]

rrumsey, on Thursday, January 20th, 2011, 12:14 AM, said:

omg didnt even read past preflop on hand 2. i would be playing the hand so differently. checking the flop is the only thing we have that is the same tbh. c/r isnt terrible on the flop tbh. def pot control the turn. river as played isnt bad, but i think its thin this early to be getting it in with top nothing kicker. i would prefer to have some metagame set up b4 im trying to rep a busted st8 draw and try to induce a hero call.

Thx for responding without "even reading past preflop".Now if you reread a 3rd time, plz note I flop two pair.Dude, you so tilt me.

[Tehtoe]

rrumsey tho

[donk4life]

rrumsey, on Thursday, January 20th, 2011, 12:14 AM, said:

omg didnt even read past preflop on hand 2. i would be playing the hand so differently. checking the flop is the only thing we have that is the same tbh. c/r isnt terrible on the flop tbh. def pot control the turn. river as played isnt bad, but i think its thin this early to be getting it in with top nothing kicker. i would prefer to have some metagame set up b4 im trying to rep a busted st8 draw and try to induce a hero call.

READ THE FUCKING HAND BEFORE YOU POST FOR GODSAKES

[nutzzcase]

Rrumsey, I'm not trying to be an ashole, but have you actually learned something from responding to all strat threads?

[HighwayStar]

nutzzcase, on Friday, January 21st, 2011, 2:09 AM, said:

Rrumsey, I'm not trying to be an ashole, but have you actually learned something from responding to all strat threads?

ASS

[nutzzcase]

HighwayStar, on Thursday, January 20th, 2011, 6:10 PM, said:

ASS

no you *******EDIT: btw they should put a list of censored words.

[MaxStPolish]

I mean admittedly its not like my advice is necessarily that great...and I'm sometimes prone to missing facts in hands before responding as well. that said I never respond knowingly not having read the hand. I mean you respond to every single new strat question.participation is cool, don't get me wrong, but if you are just pressing keys without reading hands you are actually doing a disservice to any new member who might actually put stock in your response.Honestly the last 5 responses I've seen from you in strat threads of mine have been some of the most far off thinking, or lack thereof, in strat response history.Not hating, just saying.

[Tehtoe]

Disservices are going to happen either way, he's just making it go quicker

[Mills]

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MaxStPolish, on Thursday, January 20th, 2011, 5:08 PM, said:

Thx for responding without "even reading past preflop".Now if you reread a 3rd time, plz note I flop two pair.Dude, you so tilt me.

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