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[KingJames]

Villain is a huge drooler. only 6 hands but 83/50 and has 3bet 2 out of 3 (67%)effective stacks are 16.42A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO hulkine: $25.00 Button Ivanuscas: $22.17 SB Thund3rd0m3: $28.04 BB Orcschurke: $24.40 UTG glenkyle: $21.95 UTG+1 Hero: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)glenkyle folds, Hero raises to $0.75, hulkine folds, Ivanuscas raises to $1.50, Thund3rd0m3 folds, Orcschurke folds, Hero raises to $5.75, Ivanuscas calls $4.25Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)

[KingJames]

Villain is an aggro monkey 25/22/AF 3.7, 14.3% 3bet over 288 hands. He has folded to the first two 4 bets (1 by me, 1 by another player) Do you think he flats any premiums to the 4b? Like JJ QQ waiting for a non A K flop? His aggroness makes me think he'd ship most of those hands pre...Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB v1cIOus: $25.10 BB suspenser: $25.00 UTG Abomb301rus: $38.92 UTG+1 Hero: $36.20 CO iSchuey: $25.00 Button chunkytuna: $30.71 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)Abomb301rus folds, Hero raises to $0.75, iSchuey folds, chunkytuna raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.25, chunkytuna calls $3.75Flop: ($12.85) (2 players)

[rrumsey]

i kinda dislike cbets on both these boards:hand one, you seriously could face a jam a lot. from all kinds of PP's. and you could get bluffed off the best hand. would just check fold. but out of these 2 boards this def has a chance to work. the other flop, i dont think we can. Hand 2, paired boards like this one arent amazing to cbet bc PP's and such dont like to fold. and enough draws wanna jam face us here. c/f as well imo. also in hand 2 if villain is a thinking player he calls the 4 bet with AA, KK, QQ, and stuff and is never folding the flop.

[SuperJon]

I think I agree with rrumsey.I can't really think of too many hands in either villain's range that's going to fold to a cbet on these flops. I think if you did cbet a flop, it'd probably have better success on hand 1. He makes a tiny 3bet preflop, and then flats a pretty big 4bet. I think his range is either really wide or really narrow.No shame in check/folding either flop though.

[Nashtak]

KingJames, on Friday, January 7th, 2011, 4:22 PM, said:

Villain is a huge drooler. only 6 hands but 83/50 and has 3bet 2 out of 3 (67%)effective stacks are 16.42A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO hulkine: $25.00 Button Ivanuscas: $22.17 SB Thund3rd0m3: $28.04 BB Orcschurke: $24.40 UTG glenkyle: $21.95 UTG+1 Hero: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)glenkyle folds, Hero raises to $0.75, hulkine folds, Ivanuscas raises to $1.50, Thund3rd0m3 folds, Orcschurke folds, Hero raises to $5.75, Ivanuscas calls $4.25Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)

I don't know if i like 4-betting AKoff oop based on a read after 6 hands. But if he's as much as lagtard as we think he is, then he might just spew his stack away with ATC after we check. And we are not in such a bad shape against most of his PPs. Check/Jamming ace-high for value anyone?Otherwise, i would just flat preflop.

[trystero]

c/ship or c/f

[Mills]

generally I would agree that cbets in these situations are dangerous, but against droolers/aggros, the range they are calling you with is wide enough where c-betting is fine imo.

[mtdesmoines]

KingJames, on Friday, January 7th, 2011, 3:22 PM, said:

Villain is a huge drooler. only 6 hands but 83/50 and has 3bet 2 out of 3 (67%)effective stacks are 16.42A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO hulkine: $25.00 Button Ivanuscas: $22.17 SB Thund3rd0m3: $28.04 BB Orcschurke: $24.40 UTG glenkyle: $21.95 UTG+1 Hero: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)glenkyle folds, Hero raises to $0.75, hulkine folds, Ivanuscas raises to $1.50, Thund3rd0m3 folds, Orcschurke folds, Hero raises to $5.75, Ivanuscas calls $4.25Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)

crai

[mtdesmoines]

KingJames, on Friday, January 7th, 2011, 3:24 PM, said:

Villain is an aggro monkey 25/22/AF 3.7, 14.3% 3bet over 288 hands. He has folded to the first two 4 bets (1 by me, 1 by another player) Do you think he flats any premiums to the 4b? Like JJ QQ waiting for a non A K flop? His aggroness makes me think he'd ship most of those hands pre...Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB v1cIOus: $25.10 BB suspenser: $25.00 UTG Abomb301rus: $38.92 UTG+1 Hero: $36.20 CO iSchuey: $25.00 Button chunkytuna: $30.71 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)Abomb301rus folds, Hero raises to $0.75, iSchuey folds, chunkytuna raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.25, chunkytuna calls $3.75Flop: ($12.85) (2 players)

button 3 bet from aggro .... i dunno. fold isnt terrible.