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$30-$60 Limit Hold'em Hand


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Poll: 30-60 Hand (23 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you do?

  1. Bet (8 votes [34.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  2. Check/Call (14 votes [60.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.87%

  3. Check/Raise (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

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#21 BaseJester

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:20 PM

View Postlooshle, on Friday, December 24th, 2010, 10:10 PM, said:

At this level though, theres not many hands he's going to have to call down for "pot odds" since the board is really dry. Like if he has TT, he doesnt have any odds vs anything we are value betting.
Yes, in this hand. I was responding to a general statement with a general statement.
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#22 looshle

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:32 PM

View PostBaseJester, on Friday, December 24th, 2010, 8:20 PM, said:

Yes, in this hand. I was responding to a general statement with a general statement.
whoopsies! my bad
QUOTE (rcgs59 @ Sunday, December 12th, 2010, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
say what?

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#23 DinkDonk

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 08:02 PM

View PostBaseJester, on Friday, December 24th, 2010, 9:15 PM, said:

The villain can be calling for pot odds even if he knows he's always behind.
For sure. I mean, I simplified it a ton and should have stated more qualifiers, but the general point is still a very important one.

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 01:40 PM

I'd cash out and go play NL



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#25 rbakken2504

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 10:48 PM

Check/Call----allows are opponent to bet hands he would've folded if we lead out, and also allows us to lose the minimum to hands we are behind. Lead river if non pair spade falls.

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 01:06 AM

Def c/r river on any spade. Most hands that aren't going to bet river if we check are likely to fold to our lead anyways.
QUOTE (rcgs59 @ Sunday, December 12th, 2010, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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#27 mdroc1

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 04:22 PM

I would bet again in this spot. If you check and call, you have no real extra information. If you get raised and you have no info on them, it's likely that they have no info on you either. They will assume that you may have AJ or AQ, so a raise from them indicates that they can beat that. If you're new to the opposition, I don't think they will try and test you out with an A-7 by raising, but they will raise with 10-9. If they call, it's fair to assume they also have an A-x and you may be in trouble, but a spade will probably win it or a card above 10 on the river will give you a split pot. Betting also gives the opportunity for a player with A-6 to throw away. You may find a player with K-K who refuses to believe you have an ace.Once you start checking and calling, you're losing the initiative and starving yourself of information.The real difficulty comes when one or both call, the river is a like an 8 or a 10 and you have to decide whether to bet or check....

#28 BaseJester

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 08:26 PM

View Postmdroc1, on Tuesday, December 28th, 2010, 7:22 PM, said:

I would bet again in this spot. If you check and call, you have no real extra information. If you get raised and you have no info on them, it's likely that they have no info on you either. They will assume that you may have AJ or AQ, so a raise from them indicates that they can beat that. If you're new to the opposition, I don't think they will try and test you out with an A-7 by raising, but they will raise with 10-9.
All I can think of here is "Nice to have you in town, Tanto".The information you find out by betting is that betting was a mistake. Wouldn't we be better off without this information and instead keeping the big bet in our stack?
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#29 DinkDonk

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 08:29 PM

View PostBaseJester, on Tuesday, December 28th, 2010, 11:26 PM, said:

All I can think of here is "Nice to have you in town, Tanto".The information you find out by betting is that betting was a mistake. Wouldn't we be better off without this information and instead keeping the big bet in our stack?
I was waiting for someone else to respond and I like this one. The bolded sentence will save me hours of arguments in the future.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 01:51 PM

is dneg going to give his answer?
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#31 looshle

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 11:23 AM

He posted on 2p2 that he thinks it's a check/call.
QUOTE (rcgs59 @ Sunday, December 12th, 2010, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
say what?

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#32 dna4ever

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 08:31 AM

View Postlooshle, on Monday, January 3rd, 2011, 1:23 PM, said:

He posted on 2p2 that he thinks it's a check/call.
LOLWell at least DN was trying to make an effort to be interactive here again




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