amarillotg 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 im on tilt and i suck. plus im a donk.please give advice on the following: pre-flop, flop, turn and river.Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero? is Button with T:spade:, T:diamond:. 2 folds.Flop: (11 SB) J:heart:, J:club:, Q:spade: (5 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero? calls, SB calls.Turn: (7.50 BB) 9:diamond: (5 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero? calls, SB folds.River: (10.50 BB) A:club: (4 players, 1 all-in)MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero? calls.Final Pot: 13.50 BB Link to post Share on other sites
BeanGW 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Preflop call of the raise... iz OK cauz it's gonna be a big pot, and you've got the start of somethin nice maybe.Beyond that... I'd just get outta there if there's any action. You're hoping to hit a set, or see some undercards and ya got neither. This looks like a hand that will be huge, and between Jack's full and Q's full, or something strange like that. Link to post Share on other sites
Rock Crawler 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Yes, you could have. Raise and reraise on every street would have been a lot worse. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 3-bet preflopfold flopcall turnfold riverZara Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 9 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I would have Raised Pre-flop, but I don't hate the call.after that, get the hell out of doge. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 easy threebet PF. After that everything changes. Obviously you peel one off because of the pot size, plus massive implied odds if you boat up, or improve to an oesd or gut shot. Easy river fold, even for one bet, since all you can beat is a series of bluffs Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 3-bet preflopThe hand plays different from there. The way you played it, I fold the flop...Calling isnt bad on the turn...Fold the river. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 3-bet preflopThe hand plays different from there. The way you played it, I fold the flop...Calling isnt bad on the turn...Fold the river.chris, even though you are getting sweet implied odds and the pot size to peel with 2.5 outs? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 We have to make up 6BB when we hit. I don't think we can unless someone has a Q. And if that's the case, we have to dodge cards and pray that our hand is good. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 We have to make up 6BB when we hit. I don't think we can unless someone has a Q. And if that's the case, we have to dodge cards and pray that our hand is good.you mean that we can't possibly pick up lots of bets if MP2 has AK and had just hit broadway, or from someone holding a Jack? I think so. If it was HU, yea, but the other player along for the ride I think makes this a peel Link to post Share on other sites
Rock Crawler 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 3-bet preflopfold flopcall turnfold riverZaraHow do you fold flop and then call the turn?? Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 3-bet preflopfold flopcall turnfold riverZaraHow do you fold flop and then call the turn?? :doh: Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 3-bet preflopfold flopcall turnfold riverZaraHow do you fold flop and then call the turn??Since he decided to call on the flop, the call on the turn is correct with the open ended straight draw.As for KDawg, without the 3-bet preflop I don't like the call on the flop. IF you hit the 10 on the turn AND your hand holds up then I think you can make up the extra bets. Other than an AK, most other hands that are going to bet with you either have you beat with QQ J10 or JQ or a redraw with JX. You don't have to be beat or redrawn on the river very often for this call to be VERY bad since it's a slim call assuming a fullhouse would hold up. The reverse implied odds are enough to make this a fold in my book.Zara Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 i really wanted to 3 bet this PF but i totally pussed out with 2 cold callers in between me and the initial raiser.question. what am i doing if i 3 bet this PF and the flop comes with overcards to my tens and im lead into?im assuming this is an automatic fold with this many people in the pot? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 i really wanted to 3 bet this PF but i totally pussed out with 2 cold callers in between me and the initial raiser.question. what am i doing if i 3 bet this PF and the flop comes with overcards to my tens and im lead into?im assuming this is an automatic fold with this many people in the pot?It's only a fold if it's bet and raised before it gets to you. If it's only bet you have decent odds to try and hit a 10 on the turn. Peel one off and go from there (In this case you also picked up an OESD on the turn, so you'd call a turn bet as well.)Zara Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Agree with the others that say the three bet preflop changes everything. Calling two cold with TT on the button is terrible. Link to post Share on other sites
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