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[vbnautilus]

Balloon guy, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 1:16 PM, said:

What did he misunderstand?Evolution: If one sub-species is better adapted to its environment and stronger and more able to further the best chances of the species...that sub-species should advance and all others should be exterminated.Nazi: Jews are inferior sub-humans.I think Hitler understood evolution perfectly.

Since Alex Trebek wasn't around back then we'll never really know.

[Balloon guy]

vbnautilus, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 1:20 PM, said:

Since Alex Trebek wasn't around back then we'll never really know.

Or will we?

[BigDMcGee]

I can't believe people keep falling for that one.

[Balloon guy]

BigDMcGee, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 1:29 PM, said:

I can't believe people keep falling for that one.

They can't help it.They actually think that their side has no sins.

[vbnautilus]

"Most of my grandest ideas originated in what I learned as a boy in the Catholic church. My philosophy is, at it's core, a Christian ideal"- Adolf Hitler

[CaneBrain]

vbnautilus, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 4:33 PM, said:

"Most of my grandest ideas originated in what I learned as a boy in the Catholic church. My philosophy is, at it's core, a Christian ideal"- Adolf Hitler

He was on the path to be such a good, Christian person until he started dabbling in evolution obv....75% of the people on Death Row are there because they had to read Origin of Species in school.

[Balloon guy]

vbnautilus, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 1:33 PM, said:

"Most of my grandest ideas originated in what I learned as a boy in the Catholic church. My philosophy is, at it's core, a Christian ideal"- Adolf Hitler

If Hitler said he was a little teacup, short and stout, would that make him one?Or would the only thing that makes him a teacup be when he has a handle and a spout?I mean Dawkins claims to be a thinker, and nobody with a brain would ever grant him that.

[vbnautilus]

I should probably clarify that I fabricated that quote from Hitler, but now that two people quoted it, it will start to show up in google searches and will make its way onto wikipedia.Within a few months it will be totally true.

[Balloon guy]

And so to clarify:RR: The Pope is evil for speaking against atheism, which has a pure as the wind driven snow history.BG: Well, not so pure.CB: Every person who ever wore a german uniform hated JewsJJJ: You sure?CB: Most of them.VB: Hitler said he was a Christian.BG: While Christians in Germany were hiding Jews and Hitler was espousing evolution directly in their radio propaganda addresses to the city?VB: Show me Alex Trebek naked.CB: Let me try making up another statistic while ignoring that exaggerating facts in one post is making it harder to continue to exaggerate facts in another.VB: What?BG: It made sense to me.

[Balloon guy]

vbnautilus, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 1:39 PM, said:

I should probably clarify that I fabricated that quote from Hitler, but now that two people quoted it, it will start to show up in google searches and will make its way onto wikipedia.Within a few months it will be totally true.

You do believe in evolution.Should anyone wish to read what Hitler really said about Christianity:

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All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:Night of 11th-12th July, 1941: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)10th October, 1941, midday: Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)14th October, 1941, midday: The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)19th October, 1941, night: The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.21st October, 1941, midday: Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)13th December, 1941, midnight: Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)14th December, 1941, midday: Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)9th April, 1942, dinner: There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)27th February, 1942, midday: It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)

He sounds familiar, Where is crow anyway?

[Roll the Bones]

In a related article, Catholic League president Bill Donohue had this to say:

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The pope cited Hitler today, asking everyone to "reflect on the sobering lessons of atheist extremism of the 20th century." Immediately, the British Humanist Association got its back up, accusing the pope of "a terrible libel against those who do not believe in God."The pope did not go far enough. Radical atheists like the British Humanist Association should apologize for Hitler. But they should not stop there. They also need to issue an apology for the 67 million innocent men, women and children murdered under Stalin, and the 77 million innocent Chinese killed by Mao. Hitler, Stalin and Mao were all driven by a radical atheism, a militant and fundamentally dogmatic brand of secular extremism. It was this anti-religious impulse that allowed them to become mass murderers. By contrast, a grand total of 1,394 were killed during the 250 years of the Inquisition, most all of whom were murdered by secular authorities.Why should atheists today apologize for the crimes of others? At one level, it makes no sense: apologies should only be given by the guilty. But on the other hand, since the fanatically anti-Catholic secularists in Britain, and elsewhere, demand that the pope—who is entirely innocent of any misconduct—apologize for the sins of others, let the atheists take some of their own medicine and start apologizing for all the crimes committed in their name. It might prove alembic.

So, since the pope directly protected pedophiles, I have to apologize? Hitler did that in my name? Yowza...

[vbnautilus]

OK then I will post some real ones too: I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.. -Mein KampfMy feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls.... We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Passau, 27 October 1928, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]We are determined, as leaders of the nation, to fulfill as a national government the task which has been given to us, swearing fidelity only to God, our conscience, and our Volk.... This the national government will regard its first and foremost duty to restore the unity of spirit and purpose of our Volk. It will preserve and defend the foundations upon which the power of our nation rests. It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our Volk and state, under its firm protection....May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our Volk.-Adolf Hitler, on 1 Feb. 1933, addressing the German nation as Chancellor for the first time, Volkischer Beobachter, 5 Aug. 1935, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were".... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions.-Adolf Hitler, 26 April 1933, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]No, it is not we that have deserted Christianity, it is those who came before us who deserted Christianity. We have only carried through a clear division between politics which have to do with terrestrial things, and religion, which must concern itself with the celestial sphere. There has been no interference with the doctrine (Lehre ) of the Confessions or with their religious freedom (Bekenntnisfreiheit ), nor will there be any such interference. On the contrary the State protects religion, though always on the one condition that religion will not be used as a cover for political ends....National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real Christianity.... For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness of a community in our national life... These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles! And I believe that if we should fail to follow these principles then we should to be able to point to our successes, for the result of our political battle is surely not unblest by God.-Adolf Hitler, in his speech at Koblenz, to the Germans of the Saar, 26 Aug. 1934

[Balloon guy]

Roll the Bones, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 2:14 PM, said:

In a related article, Catholic League president Bill Donohue had this to say:So, since the pope directly protected pedophiles, I have to apologize? Hitler did that in my name? Yowza...

You're just not being open to some alembica.

[Balloon guy]

vbnautilus, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 2:16 PM, said:

OK then I will post some real ones too:

Wiki pages clearly shows that Hitler used Christian words and speech to keep his real agenda from sounding less...evolutionist.

[Roll the Bones]

Dawkins reply on youtube, pretty awesome.

[Balloon guy]

Roll the Bones, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 2:23 PM, said:

Dawkins reply on youtube, pretty awesome.

Two words that pretty much never belong together.That guy has got to be the worst example of illogical conclusions coupled with flat out lies spoken with self-righteous indignation since Hillary Clinton demanded that there was a vast right wing conspiracy saying that Bill cheated on her with Monica.Plus he's an idiot.

[Balloon guy]

12 to 18 on the front page.That's the number of threads started contest between you and Greatest I Am.You are losing, but at least you two are together on your ideas.

[Roll the Bones]

I knew the pope always attracted big crowds but probably not what he expected...

[Roll the Bones]

Balloon guy, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 5:31 PM, said:

12 to 18 on the front page.That's the number of threads started contest between you and Greatest I Am.You are losing, but at least you two are together on your ideas.

Hey, just providing entertainment for you, but yowza, don't compare me to him or I'll cut you like a b!tch.

[Roll the Bones]

Balloon guy, on Monday, September 20th, 2010, 5:20 PM, said:

Wiki pages clearly shows that Hitler used Christian words and speech to keep his real agenda from sounding less...evolutionist.

Yeah, but there is that Batismal certificate and the biblical quotes he used to justify getting Christians to kill Jews. Not that Christians weren't always behind a good genocide given the chance.