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Started by digading, Aug 22 2010 06:42 PM

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#1 digading

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 06:42 PM

Deep in the 4 max 45 left. Been playing with utg for over 3 hours, he played tight poker for the most part.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($4.00+$0.40) t1000/t2000 ante t250 - 4 players

BB: t88,282
UTG: t121,940
Button: t102,922 (Hero)
SB: t75,484

Preflop: (t4,000) Hero is Button with (4 players)
UTG raises to t4000, Hero calls t4000, SB folds, BB calls t2000

Flop: (t14,000) (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t12000, BB raises to t84032 and is all-in,

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 06:54 PM

I'm not folding bottom set here. Given what's already in the pot, we need less than 40% equity here, and this is often enough going to be a draw with a T or a hand like AJ, KJ, J9 that is scared that we will draw and hit. Sure, it may be a better set or QT or even T7 as well, but sets are hard to make (and wouldn't BB often raise JJ or 99 pre?) and I think QT or T7 would play it slower - moreover, we still have 7 outs on the turn and usually 10 on the river against made straights.

(Edit: UTG's last action is not in the HH, but I'm assuming he folded.)

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (digading @ Monday, August 23rd, 2010, 6:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Deep in the 4 max 45 left. Been playing with utg for over 3 hours, he played tight poker for the most part.

beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($4.00+$0.40) t1000/t2000 ante t250 - 4 players

BB: t88,282
UTG: t121,940
Button: t102,922 (Hero)
SB: t75,484

Preflop: (t4,000) Hero is Button with (4 players)
UTG raises to t4000, Hero calls t4000, SB folds, BB calls t2000

Flop: (t14,000) (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t12000, BB raises to t84032 and is all-in,

Thoughts?


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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:31 PM

don't be silly, this isn't a tough spot...he's got the queen ten or a wired pair of jacks EVERY TIME

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (Tehtoe @ Sunday, August 22nd, 2010, 8:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
don't be silly, this isn't a tough spot...he's got the queen ten or a wired pair of jacks EVERY TIME

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 09:02 PM

anything beyond seems tight? you played 3 hours with him! if i was thinking he was this tight i would fold. but in a vaccum i would snap. i mean seriously you should know something, even if you were multitabling. its a 4 max. things are clear quickly in those.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE (digading @ Sunday, August 22nd, 2010, 7:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Deep in the 4 max 45 left. Been playing with utg for over 3 hours, he played tight poker for the most part.

beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($4.00+$0.40) t1000/t2000 ante t250 - 4 players

BB: t88,282
UTG: t121,940
Button: t102,922 (Hero)
SB: t75,484

Preflop: (t4,000) Hero is Button with (4 players)
UTG raises to t4000, Hero calls t4000, SB folds, BB calls t2000

Flop: (t14,000) (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t12000, BB raises to t84032 and is all-in,

Thoughts?


folding is a joke unless you can see his cards and see he has you beat... i really hope you snap called

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:37 AM

This is a no brainer call. Just blame everyone else when he has the straight. How did the hand end?
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE (TheTiburon @ Monday, August 23rd, 2010, 7:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a no brainer call. Just blame everyone else when he has the straight. How did the hand end?

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:13 AM

call and count your money. sorry he had the straight that time.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 01:04 PM

How is this a tough spot in a 4 max?

Fist Pump Snap call.


Plays AJ, QQ+ and any two pair the exact same way.

If BY chance he does have the straight, just move on.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 04:49 PM

Justlikenegs owuld slowroll here.


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Posted 24 August 2010 - 12:35 AM

just like negs would tell me he has pocket 7's here, timebank for 15 min and then call and flip over his hand

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 12:28 PM

Even with QT or T7, you still have redraws for a boat. What you REALLY don't want to see is a higher set.

Personally, I think a call is warranted here.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, August 24th, 2010, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even with QT or T7, you still have redraws for a boat. What you REALLY don't want to see is a higher set.

Personally, I think a call is warranted here.



Yah, and even if he has a higher set you still have redraws for quads.
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