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[DwayneWayne]

$30 UB Tourney 397 players. Top 40 get paid (31-40th get $58) (21-30 $67) (15-20 $79) (11-15 $92) (10th $125)the final table 9th place gets $240 and 1st gets $2400. You are one off the button with T13000, just below average stack but in no way in danger of busting out, 26 players are left you are in around 14th place. Blinds are at 400-800 with a 50 ante. Folded to MP player(T15K) who raises it to 5000, a strangely large bet for the level, you look and see that the chip leader is in the BB (T81K). You look down and see JJ. Your play?

[gobears]

An overbet in this case by the MP player could signify that he doesn't want the BB to get involved in the hand. Perhaps he fears that a more standard raise would make it too easy for the BB to call or come over the top.If had AA or KK, I think that he would want some action and would lower the raise amount. AK or QQ might be a different story however. AQ, 10's, 9's, KQs are possible also.Either I push or I fold. Since I'm already in the money and have about 16x the BB, I take the coinflip and push to try to double up.

[holman3rd]

XXEddie said:

Stop and gobasically call, if no overcards(more specifically an A) shows up go allinif he has AK AQ, hes gonna call the allin

Agreed. Pushing is tempting, but then it's just a race situation since you are likely to get called since he's already put 1/3 of his stack in the middle. Use the flop to knock him off his overcards, yet still give yourself a chance to get away from the hand if overcards to your jack hit the flop.

[gobears]

holman3rd said:

XXEddie said:

Stop and gobasically call, if no overcards(more specifically an A) shows up go allinif he has AK AQ, hes gonna call the allin

Agreed. Pushing is tempting, but then it's just a race situation since you are likely to get called since he's already put 1/3 of his stack in the middle. Use the flop to knock him off his overcards, yet still give yourself a chance to get away from the hand if overcards to your jack hit the flop.

The stop and go is a solid technique; the only reason I don't like it here is because of the big stack sitting in the BB with 81K chips.If he's super aggressive then his play would be re-raise all-in on top of the two bets.

[Outlaw_IA]

Big stack might also push 25k in on a pair of 10's and you would have the best hand. plus triple up.I would call, and check the flop......if you miss, you're in all-in mode is all. But you have some hands to pick and double from.

[holman3rd]

gobears said:

holman3rd said:

XXEddie said:

Stop and gobasically call, if no overcards(more specifically an A) shows up go allinif he has AK AQ, hes gonna call the allin

Agreed. Pushing is tempting, but then it's just a race situation since you are likely to get called since he's already put 1/3 of his stack in the middle. Use the flop to knock him off his overcards, yet still give yourself a chance to get away from the hand if overcards to your jack hit the flop.

The stop and go is a solid technique; the only reason I don't like it here is because of the big stack sitting in the BB with 81K chips.If he's super aggressive, which the OP stated, then his play would be re-raise all-in on top of the two bets.

That's a great point, and I did think about that. The overbet by the MP looks weak, as does my call--at least that's how the BB might see it. The BB could very well push with any two here based on that and hope to take the pot right there. His stack is big enough that he can make this play.However, I don't think he will make that play unless he has AK or better. Here's why: MP looks pot committed. Combine that with the pot odds the MP would be getting to call an all-in by the BB, he prolly would. I don't think the BB would want to throw away chips on a race with any hand less than AK. (well, we don't have a read on him, so I could be wrong).So, as the SB, I'm not worried about a push with less than AK from the BB. If he wakes up with AK, then great, I'm still favored in the race (assuming MP doesn't have a better hand than me--which i don't think he does). If the BB wakes up with QQ or better, well, so be it. I hope you were able to follow my logic.

[Diboss]

I like the stop and go here. Maybe the BB will try to steal, put both of you all-in, and if you're lucky, MP will fold, not likely, but it could happen. In that case, it's an easy double up or bust out for you. If a nice flop hits, all-in she goes.

[DwayneWayne]

Well I was concerend with the big stack in the BB and figured that the other player didn't want anything to do with him, so I pushed hoping he had a PP lower then TT.It folded back to him and he called showing me QQ.I hit my J on the flop but the board threw up 4 hearts giving him the Q high flush.I considered a stop and go but didn't want to be bumped off the flop because i figured he was committed and pushing in regardless of what was out there.thanks.

[Cory]

In this situation i'd just call and see a flop.