Figure there should be a thread for poor/questionable tournament director rulings .....So I'm playing a $65 NLHE live tourney in Daytona Thursday night and a hand comes up where the dealer accidentally flops out 4 cards ...... she (the dealer) calls the floor Floor comes over and the dealer explains she accidentally flopped 4 cards so the floor says "OK, turn all 4 cards upside down, mix them up, and pick one and that will be the burn; now turn up the 3 remaining cards and that is your flop"I politely told the floor that I did not think this was correct unless this was some sort of house rule. He said 'we play by tournament rules here'. It took everything in me not to be a smartass cause we were obviously playing a tournament so I responded "roberts rules?" and he looked like he didnt know what I was talking about. I asked if he was the only floor and if we could get a 2nd opinion so they called over the main tournament director guy who proceeded to give the exact same answer as the original floor did.I again politely explained (trying not to sound like a douchebag, but this greatly effected my hand as the burn card they just randomly chose was my set card) that this was not correct if they played by roberts rules. The TD said 'all TD rules are final, lets continue on with the hand". I just let it go, but this was pretty silly.On break the TD came up to me and said 'what do you think the correct ruling there should have been?' I told him that if they played by roberts rules that they should have redealt the entire flop and he laughed and said 'that is completely ridiculous'. I just walked away and went outside to smoke a cigarette.
Poor Tournament Director Rulings
Started by dna4ever, Aug 07 2010 04:01 PM
6 replies to this topic
#2
Posted 07 August 2010 - 04:25 PM
I was involved in a live tournament recently where something like that happened. The dealer brought out two burn cards on accident. The floor was called over and the final decision was to put the 2 burn cards and the flop back in the deck and reshuffle and do the flop over again. I wasn't involved in the hand but the first flop gave the utg position 2 pair and the second flop gave the same guy top pair and the button flopped a straight. I just laugh...
adamkpm shows [5s 8s]
TimmtJJzz shows [Kh Ks]
*** TURN *** [Ts 8c 4s] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8c 4s As] [6c]
adamkpm shows a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz shows a pair of Kings
adamkpm wins the pot (7,944) with a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz: wtf are u doing with 85s?
TimmtJJzz: are u gay?
James 8:02 pm
are you deep in anything?
kimboho2 8:03 pm
yhour mom
OHHHHHH
James 8:03 pm
inappropriate
TimmtJJzz shows [Kh Ks]
*** TURN *** [Ts 8c 4s] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8c 4s As] [6c]
adamkpm shows a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz shows a pair of Kings
adamkpm wins the pot (7,944) with a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz: wtf are u doing with 85s?
TimmtJJzz: are u gay?
QUOTE (Vtlaxer09 @ Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol... its not like you're lighting money on fire with that call or anything.
o wait.
o wait.
James 8:02 pm
are you deep in anything?
kimboho2 8:03 pm
yhour mom
OHHHHHH
James 8:03 pm
inappropriate
#3
Posted 07 August 2010 - 04:35 PM
dna4ever, on Saturday, August 7th, 2010, 5:01 PM, said:
Figure there should be a thread for poor/questionable tournament director rulings .....So I'm playing a $65 NLHE live tourney in Daytona Thursday night and a hand comes up where the dealer accidentally flops out 4 cards ...... she (the dealer) calls the floor Floor comes over and the dealer explains she accidentally flopped 4 cards so the floor says "OK, turn all 4 cards upside down, mix them up, and pick one and that will be the burn; now turn up the 3 remaining cards and that is your flop"I politely told the floor that I did not think this was correct unless this was some sort of house rule. He said 'we play by tournament rules here'. It took everything in me not to be a smartass cause we were obviously playing a tournament so I responded "roberts rules?" and he looked like he didnt know what I was talking about. I asked if he was the only floor and if we could get a 2nd opinion so they called over the main tournament director guy who proceeded to give the exact same answer as the original floor did.I again politely explained (trying not to sound like a douchebag, but this greatly effected my hand as the burn card they just randomly chose was my set card) that this was not correct if they played by roberts rules. The TD said 'all TD rules are final, lets continue on with the hand". I just let it go, but this was pretty silly.On break the TD came up to me and said 'what do you think the correct ruling there should have been?' I told him that if they played by roberts rules that they should have redealt the entire flop and he laughed and said 'that is completely ridiculous'. I just walked away and went outside to smoke a cigarette.
#4
Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:14 PM
JSpencer, on Saturday, August 7th, 2010, 7:35 PM, said:
lol at the tournament ruling and lol at the floor laughing at you when you gave him the correct one.
I'M LIKE WTF I JUST PAID 4K YOU DONKEY I'M ****ING SHOOTING THE GUN!
-Mark
#5
Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:53 PM
To be honest, I've seen stuff like this all the time.It's kind of absurd that the people running poker rooms don't know anything about the rules.Don't they have to go through some type of training or test so they can properly make decisionswhen needed?
#6
Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:50 PM
I was involved in a lol ruling one time and I still couldn't believe it.So I'm in the SB with KK. Player in the Co raises, I r/r, he r/r, I r/r and then the dealer says that I can't raise anymore that I have to just call. I was like WTF?!?! Everyone at the table couldn't believe it either. They called the TD and the TD agreed with the dealer's ruling. lol WTF. I said well I'm all in on the flop anyway. CO called. Flop was 9xx. He had 99.
QUOTE (no not baxter @ Monday, February 9th, 2009, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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#7
Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:55 PM
Gallo, on Saturday, August 7th, 2010, 9:50 PM, said:
I was involved in a lol ruling one time and I still couldn't believe it.So I'm in the SB with KK. Player in the Co raises, I r/r, he r/r, I r/r and then the dealer says that I can't raise anymore that I have to just call. I was like WTF?!?! Everyone at the table couldn't believe it either. They called the TD and the TD agreed with the dealer's ruling. lol WTF. I said well I'm all in on the flop anyway. CO called. Flop was 9xx. He had 99.
adamkpm shows [5s 8s]
TimmtJJzz shows [Kh Ks]
*** TURN *** [Ts 8c 4s] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8c 4s As] [6c]
adamkpm shows a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz shows a pair of Kings
adamkpm wins the pot (7,944) with a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz: wtf are u doing with 85s?
TimmtJJzz: are u gay?
James 8:02 pm
are you deep in anything?
kimboho2 8:03 pm
yhour mom
OHHHHHH
James 8:03 pm
inappropriate
TimmtJJzz shows [Kh Ks]
*** TURN *** [Ts 8c 4s] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8c 4s As] [6c]
adamkpm shows a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz shows a pair of Kings
adamkpm wins the pot (7,944) with a flush, Ace high
TimmtJJzz: wtf are u doing with 85s?
TimmtJJzz: are u gay?
QUOTE (Vtlaxer09 @ Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol... its not like you're lighting money on fire with that call or anything.
o wait.
o wait.
James 8:02 pm
are you deep in anything?
kimboho2 8:03 pm
yhour mom
OHHHHHH
James 8:03 pm
inappropriate
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