Jump to content


Turn Trips, Now What?


  • Please log in to reply
88 replies to this topic

#1 delved

delved

    Poker Forum Groupie

  • Members
  • 906 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stevens Point, WI
  • Interests:Sports, Poker, many movies, music, tv, etc.
  • Favorite Poker Game:2-7 Single Draw, MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:28 PM

I know it's not converted. Villain is new to the table.Full Tilt Poker Game #22776012691: $16,500 Guarantee (175726702), Table 12 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:06:22 ET - 2010/08/02Seat 1: Chess25 (1,362)Seat 2: Im Beamin (12,657)Seat 3: MrAkhurst (14,829)Seat 4: Thebangtrain (9,888)Seat 5: GSW16 (12,705)Seat 6: rmlb (7,915)Seat 7: krooptroop (18,297)Seat 8: vanhungy (24,963)Seat 9: mi3ch (9,851)Chess25 antes 25Im Beamin antes 25MrAkhurst antes 25Thebangtrain antes 25GSW16 antes 25rmlb antes 25krooptroop antes 25vanhungy antes 25mi3ch antes 25Chess25 posts the small blind of 150Im Beamin posts the big blind of 300The button is in seat #9*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Thebangtrain [Ah 9h]MrAkhurst foldsThebangtrain raises to 799GSW16 foldsrmlb has 15 seconds left to actrmlb has timed outrmlb foldsrmlb is sitting outkrooptroop foldsvanhungy foldsmi3ch foldsChess25 foldsIm Beamin calls 499*** FLOP *** [5h 6s 9c]rmlb has returnedIm Beamin checksThebangtrain has 15 seconds left to actThebangtrain bets 1,140Im Beamin calls 1,140*** TURN *** [5h 6s 9c] [9d]Im Beamin bets 1,998Thebangtrain ?
Novak297: im gonna slow roll
Chat Monitor (Support): Novak297 has lost their chat privilege for 1 hour. Similar content spamming is prohibited.


Lennox21: push
Lennox21: I have AA
Lennox21: ty
Dealer: delved shows [Th Tc]
Dealer: Lennox21 shows [As Ac]
Dealer: delved shows three of a kind, Tens
Dealer: Lennox21 shows a pair of Aces
Dealer: delved wins the pot (66,621) with three of a kind, Tens
delved: no, thank you

#2 Tehtoe

Tehtoe

    I like to hide in plain sight.

  • Members
  • 6,049 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Milwaukee
  • Favorite Poker Game:MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:12 PM

the middle button

#3 rrumsey

rrumsey

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,881 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta, Georgia
  • Interests:I like to think about and play poker. Enough said. I read a lot of forums and am now trying to write in them.
  • Favorite Poker Game:O8, PLO, LHE, NLHE

Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:27 PM

Full Tilt Poker $16,500 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 9 players - View hand 835849The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterSB: t1362 M = 2.02BB: t12657 M = 18.75UTG: t14829 M = 21.97Hero (UTG+1): t9888 M = 14.65UTG+2: t12705 M = 18.82MP1: t7915 M = 11.73MP2: t18297 M = 27.11CO: t24963 M = 36.98BTN: t9851 M = 14.59Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is UTG+1 with A :4h 9 :5c1 fold, Hero raises to t799, 6 folds, BB calls t499Flop: (t1973) 5 :3h 6 :ts 9 :qh (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t1140, BB calls t1140Turn: (t4253) 9 :club: (2 players)BB bets t1998Final Pot: t4253call and let him bluff river
Escalante in the small stakes grinder podcast in respect to my FPS " Bet your damn hands!!!" hahaha

Download Spartan's podcast, Small Stakes Grinder! the link for iTunes is: (http://itunes.apple....der/id354114893)
Check out updates to the podcast in the "Members Blog" section of the forum (of pokerroad)...or else. Check it out guys it is a great podcast. Next Episode (Topic: Interview with Barry Greenstein Part 2): 04/19/10

#4 nutzzcase

nutzzcase

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,795 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:41 PM

View Postrrumsey, on Monday, August 2nd, 2010, 4:27 PM, said:

call and let him bluff river
no

#5 delved

delved

    Poker Forum Groupie

  • Members
  • 906 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stevens Point, WI
  • Interests:Sports, Poker, many movies, music, tv, etc.
  • Favorite Poker Game:2-7 Single Draw, MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:16 PM

What's the reason for raising and not calling? Plus, if I'm raising, it's all in.
Novak297: im gonna slow roll
Chat Monitor (Support): Novak297 has lost their chat privilege for 1 hour. Similar content spamming is prohibited.


Lennox21: push
Lennox21: I have AA
Lennox21: ty
Dealer: delved shows [Th Tc]
Dealer: Lennox21 shows [As Ac]
Dealer: delved shows three of a kind, Tens
Dealer: Lennox21 shows a pair of Aces
Dealer: delved wins the pot (66,621) with three of a kind, Tens
delved: no, thank you

#6 Tehtoe

Tehtoe

    I like to hide in plain sight.

  • Members
  • 6,049 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Milwaukee
  • Favorite Poker Game:MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:44 PM

View Postnutzzcase, on Monday, August 2nd, 2010, 7:41 PM, said:

no
nice answer, why not?

#7 delved

delved

    Poker Forum Groupie

  • Members
  • 906 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stevens Point, WI
  • Interests:Sports, Poker, many movies, music, tv, etc.
  • Favorite Poker Game:2-7 Single Draw, MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 06:20 PM

View PostTehtoe, on Monday, August 2nd, 2010, 8:44 PM, said:

nice answer, why not?
I can say right now I called turn. Definitely would like to hear some explanation for this one
Novak297: im gonna slow roll
Chat Monitor (Support): Novak297 has lost their chat privilege for 1 hour. Similar content spamming is prohibited.


Lennox21: push
Lennox21: I have AA
Lennox21: ty
Dealer: delved shows [Th Tc]
Dealer: Lennox21 shows [As Ac]
Dealer: delved shows three of a kind, Tens
Dealer: Lennox21 shows a pair of Aces
Dealer: delved wins the pot (66,621) with three of a kind, Tens
delved: no, thank you

#8 Tehtoe

Tehtoe

    I like to hide in plain sight.

  • Members
  • 6,049 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Milwaukee
  • Favorite Poker Game:MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:58 PM

Calling turn is correct, also curious on the "no"

#9 rrumsey

rrumsey

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,881 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta, Georgia
  • Interests:I like to think about and play poker. Enough said. I read a lot of forums and am now trying to write in them.
  • Favorite Poker Game:O8, PLO, LHE, NLHE

Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:10 PM

View PostTehtoe, on Monday, August 2nd, 2010, 8:58 PM, said:

Calling turn is correct, also curious on the "no"
me too! lol!
Escalante in the small stakes grinder podcast in respect to my FPS " Bet your damn hands!!!" hahaha

Download Spartan's podcast, Small Stakes Grinder! the link for iTunes is: (http://itunes.apple....der/id354114893)
Check out updates to the podcast in the "Members Blog" section of the forum (of pokerroad)...or else. Check it out guys it is a great podcast. Next Episode (Topic: Interview with Barry Greenstein Part 2): 04/19/10

#10 delved

delved

    Poker Forum Groupie

  • Members
  • 906 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stevens Point, WI
  • Interests:Sports, Poker, many movies, music, tv, etc.
  • Favorite Poker Game:2-7 Single Draw, MTTs

Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:27 PM

Just waiting for that answer. Obv flatting is right. This guy tried to justify to me how I should raise there. He ended up floating me with Q8 and donkbet the turn and the river was a 7, which I did not fold. Was pissed about it but this guy was fking hilarious. Tried to tell me just because he won the Double Deuce that he knows all and that my play was absolutely terrible. I lold hard
Novak297: im gonna slow roll
Chat Monitor (Support): Novak297 has lost their chat privilege for 1 hour. Similar content spamming is prohibited.


Lennox21: push
Lennox21: I have AA
Lennox21: ty
Dealer: delved shows [Th Tc]
Dealer: Lennox21 shows [As Ac]
Dealer: delved shows three of a kind, Tens
Dealer: Lennox21 shows a pair of Aces
Dealer: delved wins the pot (66,621) with three of a kind, Tens
delved: no, thank you

#11 FARGOpokerND

FARGOpokerND

    11-time National Champions!

  • Members
  • 6,163 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fargo
  • Interests:POKER!
  • Favorite Poker Game:PLO

Posted 03 August 2010 - 12:07 AM

View Postdelved, on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010, 2:27 AM, said:

Just waiting for that answer. Obv flatting is right. This guy tried to justify to me how I should raise there. He ended up floating me with Q8 and donkbet the turn and the river was a 7, which I did not fold. Was pissed about it but this guy was fking hilarious. Tried to tell me just because he won the Double Deuce that he knows all and that my play was absolutely terrible. I lold hard
Why'd you post it then?

#12 Mercury69

Mercury69

    Half man! Half man!

  • Members
  • 14,244 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Pftph!
  • Favorite Poker Game:NLHE

Posted 03 August 2010 - 05:59 AM

Cram and kick yourself for playing this hand when priced-in villain turns up 87 for the str8 and you whiff the river.Isn't folding PF pretty standard for A9?
"We had all the momentum. We were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look west, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark, that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." —Raoul Duke, Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas

"Those are brave men knocking at the door. Let's go and kill them!" - Tyrion Lannister

#13 rrumsey

rrumsey

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,881 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta, Georgia
  • Interests:I like to think about and play poker. Enough said. I read a lot of forums and am now trying to write in them.
  • Favorite Poker Game:O8, PLO, LHE, NLHE

Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:36 AM

View PostMercury69, on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010, 6:59 AM, said:

Cram and kick yourself for playing this hand when priced-in villain turns up 87 for the str8 and you whiff the river.Isn't folding PF pretty standard for A9?
i mean it isnt a terrible open, but we have to be very careful with it.
Escalante in the small stakes grinder podcast in respect to my FPS " Bet your damn hands!!!" hahaha

Download Spartan's podcast, Small Stakes Grinder! the link for iTunes is: (http://itunes.apple....der/id354114893)
Check out updates to the podcast in the "Members Blog" section of the forum (of pokerroad)...or else. Check it out guys it is a great podcast. Next Episode (Topic: Interview with Barry Greenstein Part 2): 04/19/10

#14 donk4life

donk4life

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 9,215 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:44 AM

View PostMercury69, on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010, 8:59 AM, said:

Cram and kick yourself for playing this hand when priced-in villain turns up 87 for the str8 and you whiff the river.Isn't folding PF pretty standard for A9?
lol, what does shoving here accomplish? if he has a boat or 87, good for him, we're going to get stacked anyway. By shoving we're eliminating all his bluffs and probably only getting called by better. Also a9hh is a fine opening hand from this position.edit: I guess he could donk here with a weaker 9, in which case he's calling that off if we shove, but bluffs make up a bigger part of his range than any 9 or a boat, so we should just let him do the betting for us.

View Postakashenk, on 02 August 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

#15 donk4life

donk4life

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 9,215 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:45 AM

View Postnutzzcase, on Monday, August 2nd, 2010, 7:41 PM, said:

no
no

View Postakashenk, on 02 August 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

#16 Mercury69

Mercury69

    Half man! Half man!

  • Members
  • 14,244 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Pftph!
  • Favorite Poker Game:NLHE

Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:34 AM

View Postdonk4life, on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010, 10:44 AM, said:

lol, what does shoving here accomplish? if he has a boat or 87, good for him, we're going to get stacked anyway. By shoving we're eliminating all his bluffs and probably only getting called by better. Also a9hh is a fine opening hand from this position.edit: I guess he could donk here with a weaker 9, in which case he's calling that off if we shove, but bluffs make up a bigger part of his range than any 9 or a boat, so we should just let him do the betting for us.
Good points, thx, although I'll stick with a nittier opening range from this position (UTG2). I think you end up missing too many flops or getting too involved in potentially dangerous hands with A9 and the like, regardless of the "power" implied by opening at this position.
"We had all the momentum. We were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look west, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark, that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." —Raoul Duke, Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas

"Those are brave men knocking at the door. Let's go and kill them!" - Tyrion Lannister

#17 nutzzcase

nutzzcase

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,795 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:57 AM

A call on the turn given the EP raise and our chip stack looks very strong so i really don't expect villain to bluff the river. I think villain could hero call us with worse(67,77,88...) if we shove the turn. if an 8 or 7 comes on the river we don't know where we are at (we could lose some value or get bluffed if he shoves).

#18 donk4life

donk4life

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 9,215 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:19 AM

Why would a villain all of the sudden donkbet a medium pocket pair like that on the turn?

View Postakashenk, on 02 August 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

#19 TrueAce13

TrueAce13

    FCP Resident Donk

  • Members
  • 4,853 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio
  • Favorite Poker Game:PLO NLHE

Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:23 AM

what 9s are in our opening range too?
Pokerstars: TrueAce13 (Willard)
FT: TrueAce13
My First Poker Blog, please read and help me get better!

#20 nutzzcase

nutzzcase

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,795 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:34 AM

View Postdonk4life, on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010, 10:19 AM, said:

Why would a villain all of the sudden donkbet a medium pocket pair like that on the turn?
he might think his medium pocket pair is good and is trying to control the size of the pot (he's betting ~ half the pot)+ after the board pairs it's less likely we have a 9.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users