raiseitup24, on Sunday, July 25th, 2010, 3:46 AM, said:
These high only hands can be very tricky to play in PLO8 but I think they are very profitable late in tournaments where a lot of times players are only 3 betting with aa with lows. One thing you do need to understand about these situations is that they play well mostly in multi way pots and dont play as well in heads up pots especially if you think low has already got there because obviously you are just chasing half the pot. I do think its very important to play these hands aggressively after the flop especially with wrap type flops. A lot of players are going to be calling one bet with backdoor draws so I have learned that 3-betting on the flop with big draws is the right play.
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agree then I guess. Late tourney strat for PLO/8 is definitely it's own beast. Since antes are typically not introduced, it allows players to err on the side of caution. The twofold benefit to aggressive plays with wider ranges would be that you will see less resistance since (i) no antes means each orbit costs much less so folding is okay, (ii) it takes longer for players to reach danger M zone where wider shoving becomes required.I agree that wider ranged betting (opening w/ raise with a high only rundown type hand) lets us essentially play two hands. One being the very strong AA2x type hands that typically raise, as well as the well disguised actual holding that can be big scoop profitable when they hit the flop. My chief concern is that raising late in PLO/8 tournies typically works to isolate. That's why, as I noted in my prior post, I'm all for limping occasionally with high rundowns with the theory of making high only scoop hands in multi-player pots. I respect raising a larger range than just AAxx and A2xx. That said you have to be very proficient post flop to succeed long term, and I feel that if you open your range up too much (which I tend to classify high only hands, almost in whole) you are walking a very fine line, because late game PF raises tend to isolate for flops. Couple that with the fact that blinds tend to catch up in a big way late in PLO/8 tournies, and limping is rarely the right play too, so I tend to pass on high only holdings unless it's like AAJT double suited or other monster high holding (a double suited rundown gets closer to that, but still its not a double nut suited draw).