Request For Balloon Guy

[colonel Feathers 5]

Please vacate this forum immediatelyIt has become a bilge for blasphemers and trolls long ago.You are the last believer left, even DN doesnt come here.If you are indeed a believer and not just trying to irritate atheists, please stop feeding the trolls.You know what they say about pearls before swine.Peace.

[vbnautilus 49]

Please vacate this forum immediatelyIt has become a bilge for blasphemers and trolls long ago.You are the last believer left, even DN doesnt come here.If you are indeed a believer and not just trying to irritate atheists, please stop feeding the trolls.You know what they say about pearls before swine.Peace.

Are you calling me swine?

[Balloon guy 158]

If the shoe fits Porky

[Jeepster80125 0]

Please vacate this forum immediatelyIt has become a bilge for blasphemers and trolls long ago.You are the last believer left, even DN doesnt come here.If you are indeed a believer and not just trying to irritate atheists, please stop feeding the trolls.You know what they say about pearls before swine.Peace.

Until greatestiam is outed as a troll account, I think we need trollBG around to engage that account.

[Balloon guy 158]

Until greatestiam is outed as a troll account, I think we need trollBG around to engage that account.

I want to, but Brave pretty much smacked me down hard.Now I can only troll in the politics section.

[WordsOfTheProphet 0]

At least BG keeps some balance in these topics, him leaving would be disastrous!

[keith crime 8]

I agree with nothing Balloon Guy says but he's one of the best posters on the forum

[brvheart 1,768]

I agree with nothing Balloon Guy says but he's one of the best posters on the forum

Nothing is pretty absolute.

[Balloon guy 158]

Nothing is pretty absolute.

No it's true, I once told him his explanation of shorts and puts was great and he told me it wasn't

[keith crime 8]

i do love just about every balloon guy post

[CodyDean 0]

i do love just about every balloon guy post

qft...all but oneand you know which one

[adamkpm 0]

op < balloon guy tho

[phlegm 6]

op < balloon guy tho

Gratuitous flame. Not sure the op would disagree.

[phlegm 6]

op < balloon guy tho

edit

[phlegm 6]

op < balloon guy tho

damn keys

[JoeyJoJo 20]

Taken down the street from the political forum (it's in this thread because it was at the top and I didn't want to bump any GIA threads):

Also, "worship me or die" is not particularly more magnanimous than "worship me or spend eternity in hell".

I think you would admit that there is a significant difference between going up to someone and saying, "If you don't worship God, you will spend eternity in hell" versus saying, "If you don't worship God, I will kill you," the latter being what we were talking about.I could be wrong about this, but I have a hard time believing that the Bible instructs Christians to kill the heathens. In fact, I'm pretty sure it instructs them to try to save them. Do you think the Old Testament should be interpreted as saying it's ok to kill?

[Balloon guy 158]

The OT is only brought up when atheist want to try to imply that the organization that has built more hospitals, soup kitchen, homeless shelters and poverty outreach centers then anything else throughout history, is bad.They have so little to work with when it comes to bragging about their side that they are stuck trying to tear down the other.Meanwhile we keep on building hospitals, sending people to help impoverished places, and praying for the best possible things for them.Except me, I point out that communism is the only example of a godless society we have and they've done 10 times more horrible things in their first 50 years than anything all Christians have done combined throughout history.

[vbnautilus 49]

I think you would admit that there is a significant difference between going up to someone and saying, "If you don't worship God, you will spend eternity in hell" versus saying, "If you don't worship God, I will kill you," the latter being what we were talking about.

Significantly different, yes. Both pretty rude.

I could be wrong about this, but I have a hard time believing that the Bible instructs Christians to kill the heathens. In fact, I'm pretty sure it instructs them to try to save them. Do you think the Old Testament should be interpreted as saying it's ok to kill?

The OT makes it pretty clear that only the Jews are worthy (a fact which has gone to their heads), and that when it serves them they should kill and mistreat those from outside the tribe. Worshipping other gods is as bad as killing according to the ten commandments. Yahweh does plenty of smiting of non-Jews. This is from Deuteronomy:"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."But again, the Christians have in their favor they do not mind logical contradiction, so they can reject the parts of the OT they don't like. As a result, the compulsion to kill non-believers does not tend to manifest in modern Christians. Hence, this exchange:

somehow i think "love your neighbor as yourself" is pretty far from "kill everyone who doesn't worship me".

Of course, both of these messages made their way into the bible.

The OT is only brought up when atheist want to try to imply that the organization that has built more hospitals, soup kitchen, homeless shelters and poverty outreach centers then anything else throughout history, is bad.They have so little to work with when it comes to bragging about their side that they are stuck trying to tear down the other.Meanwhile we keep on building hospitals, sending people to help impoverished places, and praying for the best possible things for them.Except me, I point out that communism is the only example of a godless society we have and they've done 10 times more horrible things in their first 50 years than anything all Christians have done combined throughout history.

The hospitals wouldn't be of much value if science hadn't rejected the claims of the bible. Also, if the pope has his way, the hospitals will be too filled with people battling AIDS to handle much else.

[JoeyJoJo 20]

This is from Deuteronomy:...thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."

Well sure, if you're going to interpret it that way, I guess it could be saying to kill him.

[Balloon guy 158]

But again, the Christians have in their favor they do not mind logical contradiction, so they can reject the parts of the OT they don't like. As a result, the compulsion to kill non-believers does not tend to manifest in modern Christians.

Why would we reject part of history that shows the complete story. It seems that you are the one choosing to ignore the full story, the completion of the Law under Christ.

The hospitals wouldn't be of much value if science hadn't rejected the claims of the bible. Also, if the pope has his way, the hospitals will be too filled with people battling AIDS to handle much else.

Pretty much every major advancement of science was made by Christians who were trained in Christian schools for most of history.All except the silly evolution theory that is falling apart with every new discovery of the complexity of life.

[Balloon guy 158]

Well sure, if you're going to interpret it that way, I guess it could be saying to kill him.

Some interpret these type of passages as showing how even a slight bending from truth and the allowance of falsehoods is of such dire consequences that it's immediate correction is the only solution.Kind of like a virus, you don't learn to live with it or allow it to do what it wants, you get rid of it before it infects the entire body.

[vbnautilus 49]

Some interpret these type of passages as showing how even a slight bending from truth and the allowance of falsehoods is of such dire consequences that it's immediate correction is the only solution.Kind of like a virus, you don't learn to live with it or allow it to do what it wants, you get rid of it before it infects the entire body.

in other words, death to the infidels!

[Balloon guy 158]

in other words, death to the infidels!

But some of you are more infidelish than others.EDIT*Said slowly, infidelish sounds kind of sexual. Might need to read it fast to get the original meaning

[vbnautilus 49]

infidelicious.

[dapokerbum 0]

It really comes down to who and how things are interpreted. There have been many people over time who have been killed because they did not believe in Christianity (I use this term loosely as to include any group who believes that Jesus died for our sins and therefore we are "saved"). These same people interpreted the bible to justify their actions in killing. The same can be said for the modern day muslim extremists. While some say that Islam is a peaceful religion, there are others who are using it as a recruitment tool for terrorists. While I have not studied the Koran or muslin faith (I may do that soon to get an idea of how these wackos are interpreting things), I have studied the bible to some extent.