Does God Want Slaves Or Empowered People?

[Greatest I am 0]

Does God want slaves or empowered people?If on earth as it is in heaven is to have any meaning to believers at all, they should recognize that human morals are better than God’s in the issue of just what our heavenly Father wants for us.God’s idea of free will is -----do it my way or be tortured forever in hell.I call that a threat and coercion and immoral. Nor free will at all.It seems to me that God wants slaves and not empowered people.If we are always doing His will, then we cannot ever exercise our own.Any man should want his children to meet or beat whatever that man is or has accomplished. He should wants a successful child to be proud of and better than himself. Empowered and not a slave to him as a father or his rules. God on the other hand wants us all somewhere way below what He is and should we dare aspire to a greater heights or even a different level, it is off to hell for us.Man then seems to has better morals.Right? Do you want your children as your slaves the way our heavenly Father does for us, His children? If --on earth as it is in heaven-- then you must.If not then you break the first commandment by putting your ideals ahead of God’s.RegardsDL

[Jeepster80125 0]

Does God want slaves or empowered people?If on earth as it is in heaven is to have any meaning to believers at all, they should recognize that human morals are better than God’s in the issue of just what our heavenly Father wants for us.God’s idea of free will is -----do it my way or be tortured forever in hell.I call that a threat and coercion and immoral. Nor free will at all.It seems to me that God wants slaves and not empowered people.If we are always doing His will, then we cannot ever exercise our own.Any man should want his children to meet or beat whatever that man is or has accomplished. He should wants a successful child to be proud of and better than himself. Empowered and not a slave to him as a father or his rules. God on the other hand wants us all somewhere way below what He is and should we dare aspire to a greater heights or even a different level, it is off to hell for us.Man then seems to has better morals.Right? Do you want your children as your slaves the way our heavenly Father does for us, His children? If --on earth as it is in heaven-- then you must.If not then you break the first commandment by putting your ideals ahead of God’s.RegardsDL

As long as the gays aren't getting married I don't think god cares.

[Balloon guy 158]

You are making a bad connection to the idea that God has rules that He wants for us to follow, and the reality of hell.We are going to hell because of our sins. Whether you pay God all your money, help orphans all day and never tell a lie...you still are heading to hell. He made a super easy way to escape this fate. His only requirement is to ask and believe.In the midst of this process, He gives us rules that will make the world and us better and happier.Telling us to only have sex in the context of marriage will result in a better society. There will be almost no orphans, no unwed mothers, children will be raised in the best environment possible. Almost no STDs possible. Etc.Trying to equate God telling you not to have sex outside of marriage to God punishing you by sending you to hell if you don't is a completely false connection made only with lazy logic.

[BaseJester 1]

Telling us to only have sex in the context of marriage will result in a better society. There will be almost no orphans, no unwed mothers, children will be raised in the best environment possible. Almost no STDs possible. Etc.

What?

[davezz5 0]

What?

Your non-orphan ev has increased by 50% because you have two parents, Instead of being the child of a single parent. Although you can take comfort in knowing that the un-married mum that brought you into this miserable world has gone straight to hell. Hoo-rah!

[Greatest I am 0]

As long as the gays aren't getting married I don't think god cares.

So your God really really cares what people do with their sexual organs.Quite the God.Your homophobia is showing. Yuk.RegardsDL

[Greatest I am 0]

You are making a bad connection to the idea that God has rules that He wants for us to follow, and the reality of hell.We are going to hell because of our sins. Whether you pay God all your money, help orphans all day and never tell a lie...you still are heading to hell. He made a super easy way to escape this fate. His only requirement is to ask and believe.In the midst of this process, He gives us rules that will make the world and us better and happier.Telling us to only have sex in the context of marriage will result in a better society. There will be almost no orphans, no unwed mothers, children will be raised in the best environment possible. Almost no STDs possible. Etc.Trying to equate God telling you not to have sex outside of marriage to God punishing you by sending you to hell if you don't is a completely false connection made only with lazy logic.

So your God wants slaves.Quite the God.Do you want your children slaved to you?I may not really want your answer and because here as elsewhere, you just spout unproven dogma instead of reason.RegardsDL

[vbnautilus 48]

So your God really really cares what people do with their sexual organs.Quite the God.Your homophobia is showing. Yuk.RegardsDL

You seem to be missing some of the subtleties of communication here.

[Greatest I am 0]

You seem to be missing some of the subtleties of communication here.

Then do a better job of it.RegardsDL

[vbnautilus 48]

Then do a better job of it.RegardsDL

My point was the Jeepster was being sarcastic. If you cannot appreciate sarcasm and humor you've come to the wrong place. We like to have a good time exposing the absurdity if our religious friends' beliefs here. It's normally quite enjoyable to make Balloon Guy look stupid but somehow you seem to be sucking all the fun out if it.

[Greatest I am 0]

My point was the Jeepster was being sarcastic. If you cannot appreciate sarcasm and humor you've come to the wrong place. We like to have a good time exposing the absurdity if our religious friends' beliefs here. It's normally quite enjoyable to make Balloon Guy look stupid but somehow you seem to be sucking all the fun out if it.

We all attack idiocy in our own way and correcting wrong thinking is a duty. Not an opportunity to have fun.RegardsDL

[LongLiveYorke 38]

We all attack idiocy in our own way

If you're interested in attacking idiocy, become a masochist.

[Balloon guy 158]

My point was the Jeepster was being sarcastic. If you cannot appreciate sarcasm and humor you've come to the wrong place. We like to have a good time exposing the absurdity if our religious friends' beliefs here. It's normally quite enjoyable to make Balloon Guy look stupid but somehow you seem to be sucking all the fun out if it.

Or he is a mirror to your own failures?BA-ZING

[Balloon guy 158]

So your God wants slaves.Quite the God.Do you want your children slaved to you?I may not really want your answer and because here as elsewhere, you just spout unproven dogma instead of reason.RegardsDL

Let's review:You: Poorly thought out point, with glaring errorsMe: Explain your errors, explain why your thinking is faultyYou: Same poorly thought out point to defend the exact same point I just refuted.Me: ?You: I win...Everyone else: You are ruining it for us.You: I think you are wrong also.Internet: Maybe if we ignore you, you will go away to another site like you did last time and ended up at ours.Me: Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop trolling idiots.

[Mills 0]

We all attack idiocy in our own way and correcting wrong thinking is a duty. Not an opportunity to have fun.RegardsDL

God bless you for making this relevant again:

[Greatest I am 0]

God bless you for making this relevant again:

Thanks.God does not bless anyone though. You have to be real to do so. RegardsDL

[Balloon guy 158]

Thanks.God does not bless anyone though. You have to be real to do so. RegardsDL

I knew you weren't real.Who are you?RR?

[JoeyJoJo 18]

Who are you?RR?

I asked RR that and he says it's not him.Unless you meant RodReynolds. But I'm pretty sure it's not him either.

[Balloon guy 158]

I asked RR that and he says it's not him.Unless you meant RodReynolds. But I'm pretty sure it's not him either.

Is it you?Is it you pretending to be Wang?Cause that would be a good one. Unless it is Rose pretending to be you pretending to by Wang, then I guess we are not allowed to like it?

[YonYonson 156]

its not me. but i like the effort, no matter how wasted.

[Roll the Bones 74]

I knew you weren't real.Who are you?RR?

its not me. but i like the effort, no matter how wasted.

You know my first fear when he started posting was "oh NO, he's going to ruin my reputation as an incoherent poster that's gone over the edge."So yep, not me.

[vbnautilus 48]

I knew you weren't real.Who are you?RR?

I asked RR that and he says it's not him.Unless you meant RodReynolds. But I'm pretty sure it's not him either.

I don't think he is an alter-ego of someone here. At least, he's been doing this account for several years elsewhere, including since 2007 on the james randi forums: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=178338&page=2since 2008 on city-data.com: http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/gre...-am-462168.htmlAnd elsewhere under different id's but same M.O.. His myspace page was not created too recently. That said, he is definitely a professional troll. He posted the exact same thread on many different forums:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=142953http://www.ephilosopher.com/philosophy-for...-trinitarians./http://www.webmaster-talk.com/politics-and...initarians.htmlhttp://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=180238http://www.ex-christian.net/index.php?/top...r-trinitarians/http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1130485/pg1http://www.offtopicz.com/showthread.php?t=64722http://www.thoughts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40076http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...186006&st=0http://community.history.com/reply/184027/...initarians.htmlhttp://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4537http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7650172http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-ph...initarians.htmlhttp://www.belowtopsecret.com/forum/thread592838/pg1http://www.theforumsite.com/forum/topic/A-...rians-/403178/0http://forums.myspace.com/t/4809225.aspx?f...amp;SortOrder=0This is... pathological. I haven't even collected them all. This guy is a machine. Grounds for ban?

[Jeepster80125 0]

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That's pretty JJJ-like of you, very impressive.edit: that's almost as awesome as when bigd had that great sig pic of world famous stuntman scott roland for a time.

[JoeyJoJo 18]

That's pretty JJJ-like of you, very impressive.

No, I can't find anything outside of FCP.I don't care if he's banned or not. He doesn't bring anything to the table really, but he's more perplexing than annoying.

[Balloon guy 158]

I don't think he is an alter-ego of someone here. At least, he's been doing this account for several years elsewhere, including since 2007 on the james randi forums: [This is... pathological. I haven't even collected them all. This guy is a machine. Grounds for ban?

If we didn't ban crow I think it would be selective to ban this guy.Let's instead allow him the freedom to be wrong, because that's what made this country great.That and kicking the crap out of the English for being wrong.Those two things.Besides if we start banning every one of you guys that misquotes scripture.....you get the point.But you gotta love that he quoted a sentence said by satan and tried to pass it off as God saying it. I mean wow is that grounds for being permanently placed in the 'not worthy for replies' station in life or what?