This is a pretty standard loose, passive table on Party PokerParty Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [Qs], [7s]. 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.Easy completiong from the SB.Flop: (3 SB) [Kc], [5d], [7h] (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.I bet here having a chance to pick it as the table has been very passive postflop and not chasing too much on flops like these. I get raised by the BB and I figure he has the K. There's easily enough in the pot for me to see the turn though. Not sure what the MP2 has to call two cold on that flop other than maybe a weak K.Turn: (4.50 BB) [7c] (3 players)Hero checks, BB bets, BB calls, MP2 calls.I hit a great card and want to extract the most from the BB. I figure if I check he will bet the vast majority of the time allowing me to get in a check/raise and also possibly trapping MP2 for a bet.I don't like leading here and hoping for a raise because I don't think I'm going to get it if he only has a K if I pull a straight stop and go. Opinions?River: (10.50 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.The backdoor flush completing worries me a little bit so I only call the raise. Should I have 3-bet this?Final Pot: 16.50 BBZara
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:12 PM
I might have folded that preflop. With only one limper in the hand you pretty much have to hit the flop big to even bother staying in there.Flop bet isn't to bad. You got a piece of it and wanted to test the waters. The re-raise pretty much screams I've got a king.Turn is fine.River 3 bet that. As I would put MP on K10 or K7 at this point.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:14 PM
I'm probably cring this flop, but betting out isn't bad either. If we have an overcard I'm definetly CRing the flop. I like the hand overall, I think that he might've hit Kings and Tens on the river, but that flush card slows me down
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:15 PM
I don't think KT raises the river 3/4 of the time after being C/red on the turn.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:16 PM
monoatomic said:
I might have folded that preflop. With only one limper in the hand you pretty much have to hit the flop big to even bother staying in there.River 3 bet that. As I would put MP on K10 or K7 at this point.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:17 PM
monoatomic said:
I might have folded that preflop. With only one limper in the hand you pretty much have to hit the flop big to even bother staying in there.Flop bet isn't to bad. You got a piece of it and wanted to test the waters. The re-raise pretty much screams I've got a king.Turn is fine.River 3 bet that. As I would put MP on K10 or K7 at this point.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:17 PM
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I don't think KT raises the river 3/4 of the time after being C/red on the turn.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:18 PM
but he check/raised the turn after the board paired.I think we should call the river raise.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:20 PM
By the way, betting the flop set the c/r turn up quite nicely. I think this hand is just fine the way you played it.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:47 PM
wrto4556 said:
I think we should call the river raise.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:23 PM
For those that might be interested the donkey BB in this hand had 67o that he WAY overplayed on the flop. The play boggles me. He has second pair on the flop and raises with a weak kicker. He hits trips on the turn and only calls my check raise. He then raises with the same trips when a flush completes on the river. I was surprised when I saw his hand in the history.And yes, the LP player had K4o for top pair no kicker that he couldn't get away from on a paired board with lots of action. I like people like that :lol:Zara
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:25 PM
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For those that might be interested the donkey BB in this hand had 67o that he WAY overplayed on the flop. The play boggles me. He has second pair on the flop and raises with a weak kicker. He hits trips on the turn and only calls my check raise. He then raises with the same trips when a flush completes on the river. I was surprised when I saw his hand in the history.And yes, the LP player had K4o for top pair no kicker that he couldn't get away from on a paired board with lots of action. I like people like that :lol:Zara
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:40 PM
Disregard what I posted earlier. Was half paying attention.I still don't like completing with the Q7. For the exact reason why this hand is posted. He hit 2nd pair ehh kicker and almost has to bet out at this hand or let it go. He got lucky to hit the turn like he did.MP I really have no idea at what he has seeing as all he did the entire hand was call call call.The reason I can almost guarentee that the BB doesn't have the flush and instead has K10 or Kx that's not a 7, is the raise on the flop. Would you raise a bet on the flop with two clubs or KQ K10 something like that? Also if he hit the boat I doubt he wouldn't cap the turn when check raised unless he is a really really tricky player.I stand by the 3 bet on the river. I don't think the flush got there unless MP hit it and just sat back and let all of you guys do the betting for him. I still think the BB overplayed the K10.Edit* seeing the results....MP is a moron and the big blind WAY overplayed the 67.
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