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Cliffs: Chinese collusion ring in DONs busted up by Stars, took way too long, every party involved is pissed about something.
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Collusionaments
Started by lurbz, May 25 2010 03:04 AM
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:04 AM
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 06:20 AM
It's pretty much impossible for 50 people from the same part of China who are all playing in the same games to not be cheating. It's takes a bit of effort for somebody in China to sign up and play at Stars since the Stars website is blocked by the Chinese Gov't so those people aren't going to just randomly join Stars and be in the same games.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 06:49 AM
FCP bob < microBob imo 
I've read a lot of speculation but no real evidence linking Jane's account to the other cheaters.
EDIT: I've seen jane's stats and she seems like a winning player over a large sample.
I don't think it would be hard to compare her winning rate and sample size to other cheating accounts to determine some sort of link.
I've read a lot of speculation but no real evidence linking Jane's account to the other cheaters.
EDIT: I've seen jane's stats and she seems like a winning player over a large sample.
I don't think it would be hard to compare her winning rate and sample size to other cheating accounts to determine some sort of link.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:03 AM
QUOTE (nutzzcase @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FCP bob < microBob imo
I've read a lot of speculation but no real evidence linking Jane's account to the other cheaters.
EDIT: I've seen jane's stats and she seems like a winning player over a large sample.
I don't think it would be hard to compare her winning rate and sample size to other cheating accounts to determine some sort of link.
I've read a lot of speculation but no real evidence linking Jane's account to the other cheaters.
EDIT: I've seen jane's stats and she seems like a winning player over a large sample.
I don't think it would be hard to compare her winning rate and sample size to other cheating accounts to determine some sort of link.
In a case of collusion win rate has zero to do with anything.
In a case like this I imagine the evidence is mostly going to be related to frequency of play with the other accounts and then actual game play and seeing if the cheating accounts play differently with each other than they do with other accounts that aren't related.
Poker Stars will never publicly give out the evidence.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:50 AM
Is this on cash games or MTT's?
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 09:10 AM
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 8:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this on cash games or MTT's?
Looks like it was on Double or Nothing sit and goes.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 09:14 AM
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Even money says these people were chinese farming WoW gold 3 years ago
Lmao
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 11:58 AM
So after a few hundred grand is 'stolen' from the honest players on their site, Pokerstars returned the tiny bit of money they did confiscate, kept the rake ( which means they won/lost nothing in this exchange ) and banned these players ( their screen names )
Anyone think this action is kind of lacking in effectiveness to protect their site from thieves?
I don't know what else can be done, but it seems that this will only get worse, that scams, collusion and thieves will get better and better because at the end of the day, online gaming sites are always going to be a few steps behind cheaters.
And the online sites will take a share of the cheater's ill gotten gain every time...
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 02:39 PM
Stars really dropped the ball on this one, seems like dozens of regs were complaining for weeks before they finally did anything.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:49 PM
QUOTE (lurbz @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 5:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stars really dropped the ball on this one, seems like dozens of regs were complaining for weeks before they finally did anything.
Finally people are realizing who the real crooks are, Pokerstars themselves.
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Saw Jim Mcmanus playing low stakes on FTP and had to throw this line at him-
herly33 (Observer): hey Jim your disrespcting the game
herly33 (Observer): stop raising in the dark pal
Jim McManus: I call u with Q hi
Jim McManus: (but not J hi)
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:59 PM
QUOTE (herly33 @ Wednesday, May 26th, 2010, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally people are realizing who the real crooks are, Pokerstars themselves.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:50 PM
QUOTE (herly33 @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 3:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally people are realizing who the real crooks are, Pokerstars themselves.
Nah I think it's the colluding multiaccounters
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[23:57] Tbrick286: one with a pulse
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:53 PM
QUOTE (herly33 @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 6:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally people are realizing who the real crooks are, Pokerstars themselves.
And the multiaccounters!
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:16 PM
QUOTE (Tehtoe @ Wednesday, May 26th, 2010, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the multiaccounters!
they're just victims of circumstance
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:33 AM
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 2:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So after a few hundred grand is 'stolen' from the honest players on their site, Pokerstars returned the tiny bit of money they did confiscate, kept the rake ( which means they won/lost nothing in this exchange ) and banned these players ( their screen names )
Anyone think this action is kind of lacking in effectiveness to protect their site from thieves?
I don't know what else can be done, but it seems that this will only get worse, that scams, collusion and thieves will get better and better because at the end of the day, online gaming sites are always going to be a few steps behind cheaters.
And the online sites will take a share of the cheater's ill gotten gain every time...
Anyone think this action is kind of lacking in effectiveness to protect their site from thieves?
I don't know what else can be done, but it seems that this will only get worse, that scams, collusion and thieves will get better and better because at the end of the day, online gaming sites are always going to be a few steps behind cheaters.
And the online sites will take a share of the cheater's ill gotten gain every time...
Cynical. Also pretty true.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:00 AM
QUOTE (herly33 @ Tuesday, May 25th, 2010, 6:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally people are realizing who the real crooks are, Pokerstars themselves.
ok, i'll bite. please elaborate, why exactly are pokerstars crooks?
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:17 AM
QUOTE (tbrick412 @ Wednesday, May 26th, 2010, 6:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok, i'll bite. please elaborate, why exactly are pokerstars crooks?
they don't let him win obv!
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