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[hblask]

I think this decision has left things more confused than before. That's what happens when you start with a bad law and have a Supreme Court that doesn't have any fundamental belief system -- you just get random sort of nonsense.In the end, vigilantes like Sheriff Joe are not going to solve the immigration problem, and the current solution of having an economy that really really sucks is not permanent. It will eventually have to be dealt with in a realistic and moral fashion or this problem will continue forever.

[colonel Feathers]

hblask, on 02 September 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, September 2nd, 2010, 12:51 PM)Well, more people die each year on our border than in all the years of the Berlin Wall, and once upon a time people thought the wall was inhumane.....

Irony on parade here.Less died on the berlin wall, cause it was well guarded.

[Pot Odds RAC]

Federal Judge just upheld "Show Us Your Papers" in Az.

[colonel Feathers]

Pot Odds RAC, on 19 September 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

Federal Judge just upheld "Show Us Your Papers" in Az.

The idea that someone should have some sort of ID is outrageous and unamerican.

[Balloon guy]

colonel Feathers, on 20 September 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

The idea that someone should have some sort of ID is outrageous and unamerican.

Like in order to cash a check, fly on a plane, rent a car, buy cigarettes, buy alcohol, drive a car, attend a school, rent an apartment,etc.

[JubilantLankyLad]

Balloon guy, on 20 September 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Like in order to cash a check, fly on a plane, rent a car, buy cigarettes, buy alcohol, drive a car, attend a school, rent an apartment, be, etc.

FYP

[Balloon guy]

If you don't have ID or money in your pocket you can get arrested for vagrancy in most places in this country.

[LongLiveYorke]

Balloon guy, on 20 September 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

If you don't have ID or money in your pocket you can get arrested for vagrancy in most places in this country.

I think the people who are against the "papers please" law would be against that law as well. But thank you for pointing out another bad law (if it exists, which I actually doubt).

[colonel Feathers]

LongLiveYorke, on 20 September 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I think the people who are against the "papers please" law would be against that law as well. But thank you for pointing out another bad law (if it exists, which I actually doubt).

Seriously, I dont get why being able to id yourself to law enforcement is bad law.

[Balloon guy]

LongLiveYorke, on 20 September 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I think the people who are against the "papers please" law would be against that law as well. But thank you for pointing out another bad law (if it exists, which I actually doubt).

Vagrancy laws?

Did you not see Rambo? That's what they arrested him for before they hosed him down.


Man LLY...Rambo.....its like required before you get your man card.

You DO want your man card don't you?

[colonel Feathers]

Balloon guy, on 20 September 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Vagrancy laws?

Did you not see Rambo? That's what they arrested him for before they hosed him down.


Man LLY...Rambo.....its like required before you get your man card.

You DO want your man card don't you?

But you did see what rambo did to the town tho.

[LongLiveYorke]

colonel Feathers, on 20 September 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Seriously, I dont get why being able to id yourself to law enforcement is bad law.

Because it removes a citizen's right: the right to not carry a wallet. I thought conservatives were against removing rights for little gain. If everyone needs to carry an id, and I go out for a walk and don't bring my wallet, should I be liable for arrest?

[colonel Feathers]

LongLiveYorke, on 21 September 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Because it removes a citizen's right: the right to not carry a wallet. I thought conservatives were against removing rights for little gain. If everyone needs to carry an id, and I go out for a walk and don't bring my wallet, should I be liable for arrest?

oK then if having ID is bad law, then I should be able to buy guns without having to prove who I am.

[Essay21]

walking around does not equal purchasing a gun. i feel like that shouldn't have to be said.

[colonel Feathers]

Essay21, on 21 September 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

walking around does not equal purchasing a gun. i feel like that shouldn't have to be said.

dOESNT equal voting either, but it seems to be ok to vote without ID

[Essay21]

i never said that.

[colonel Feathers]

Essay21, on 21 September 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

i never said that.

TRUE but some think that. Especially if you are brown and cant speak english.

[Balloon guy]

LongLiveYorke, on 21 September 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Because it removes a citizen's right: the right to not carry a wallet. I thought conservatives were against removing rights for little gain. If everyone needs to carry an id, and I go out for a walk and don't bring my wallet, should I be liable for arrest?

If you go out without ID you will not be inspected.

If you are arrested for a crime, then the police do have a right to know who you are. And you're word is not good enough.

The sheer numbers involved means people will not be arrested for no ID, but when they are arrested for breaking a law, the police should be able to ask for ID.

[CaneBrain]

Surprise, surprise, voter fraud is virtually non-existenet:

http://news.yahoo.co...--election.html

Despite Republican state legislatures abusing their power and questioning the voting rights of mostly Democrats and Independents, they are finding ineligible voters at a rate of "it's more likely that you'll be struck by lightning."

[colonel Feathers]

CaneBrain, on 24 September 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Surprise, surprise, voter fraud is virtually non-existenet:

http://news.yahoo.co...--election.html

Despite Republican state legislatures abusing their power and questioning the voting rights of mostly Democrats and Independents, they are finding ineligible voters at a rate of "it's more likely that you'll be struck by lightning."

sINCE ineligible voters prolly dont announce it, how would they know.