TraptSteve 0 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 1-2nlhe live @ the EmpressInsight/Reads -Villian is an uBer LAG-tard. a QUICK previous hand recap (Raised EP to 16$ with 9-3 off , cbet 1/4 pot on a 7-k-3 board and called a shove of ~100.)Effective stacks -Villain(UTG+1): ~170HEro(Button): 254CUtoff: 200UTG FoldsVillain - Raises to 16$Folds to Cutoff - CallsHero - calls ( )SB/BB foldFlop ($51): :card_diamonds_5:Villain cbets 15$, Cutoff Folds, Hero raises to 40$, Villain Calls, Cutoff FoldsTurn (131$): :card_spades_k:Villain Checks, Hero ?THoughts? I probably would have 3-bet preflop had the cutoff folded. Villain's cbet amount and line is virtually identical to the hand where he had flopped bottom pair. Fire the second barrel or take the free card? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 fold preflop Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Don't 3bet preflop. It's lolive poker where ppl don't fold. You're asking a guy who gets a stack in with 93 on K73 to fold when you have 7high... bad ideaLive poker is about making big hands and value towning opponents who will call with worse.Just call the flop. Call a modest bet on the turn with ~psb left for river binkage Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Don't 3bet preflop. It's lolive poker where ppl don't fold. You're asking a guy who gets a stack in with 93 on K73 to fold when you have 7high... bad ideaLive poker is about making big hands and value towning opponents who will call with worse.Just call the flop. Call a modest bet on the turn with ~psb left for river binkageHis cbet size probably translates to much of the lower part of his range, ie (air, 3rd or mid pair etc) Does my raise not have fold equity when he holds air, which I think is safe to assume is what he'll wind up in a majority of the time, on the flop?By raising the flop, it gives us the option of firing a second barrel vs tighter opponents or taking a free card. If we raise small (a little more than a CiB for instance) on the flop, we're essentially getting to the river cheaper than c/c a moderate-sized bet on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Villian is an uBer LAG-tard. THoughts? I probably would have 3-bet preflop had the cutoff folded. Villain's cbet amount and line is virtually identical to the hand where he had flopped bottom pair. Fire the second barrel or take the free card?So your read is that he calls with a pair of 3s and you're wanting to shove an unmade, unimproved 8-high into him (which is your only play at him on the turn)? Who's the uBer LAG-tard? Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Fold preflop. Call flop.Have you ever seen this villain fold? Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 easiest 2nd barrel ever once you've taken this line Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 Fold preflop. Call flop.Have you ever seen this villain fold?yes. he bloated a couple other pots to eventually fold. Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 So your read is that he calls with a pair of 3s and you're wanting to shove an unmade, unimproved *7-high into him (which is your only play at him on the turn)? Who's the uBer LAG-tard?FYPthe villain has folded in other pots he bloated, on later streets.. he actually won his 9-3 hand and since given it all backeasiest 2nd barrel ever once you've taken this lineThere we go! Two different views on how to play the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Donnie Ray 0 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 i would keep it small since he can call so light. call flop, check turn, value town when you hit. what do you do when you get a bunch invested and miss and he shows bottom pair again? Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 i dont mind the call preflop, but i dont like the raise on the flop.as played, firing wouldn't be that bad if u've seen him fold before. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 uberLAGTARD...who's short, and who's charging us 8bbs to see a flop with our drawing hand...fold pre Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 Against a tighter player I probably barrel, but I decided to take the free card. I rivered a 7, went check/check and it was good. Link to post Share on other sites
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