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#1 TraptSteve

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 12:42 PM

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Villian is an uBer LAG-tard.

a QUICK previous hand recap (
Raised EP to 16$ with 9-3 off , cbet 1/4 pot on a 7-k-3 board and called a shove of ~100.)



Effective stacks -

Villain(UTG+1): ~170
HEro(Button): 254
CUtoff: 200

UTG Folds
Villain - Raises to 16$
Folds to Cutoff - Calls
Hero - calls ( card_diamonds_7.gif card_diamonds_6.gif )
SB/BB fold

Flop ($51): card_clubs_q.gif card_clubs_4.gif card_diamonds_5.gif
Villain cbets 15$, Cutoff Folds, Hero raises to 40$, Villain Calls, Cutoff Folds

Turn (131$): card_spades_k.gif

Villain Checks, Hero ?

THoughts? I probably would have 3-bet preflop had the cutoff folded. Villain's cbet amount and line is virtually identical to the hand where he had flopped bottom pair.
Fire the second barrel or take the free card?


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Posted 23 April 2010 - 12:49 PM

fold preflop
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 12:53 PM

Don't 3bet preflop. It's lolive poker where ppl don't fold. You're asking a guy who gets a stack in with 93 on K73 to fold when you have 7high... bad idea

Live poker is about making big hands and value towning opponents who will call with worse.

Just call the flop. Call a modest bet on the turn with ~psb left for river binkage
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#4 TraptSteve

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE (KingJames @ Friday, April 23rd, 2010, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't 3bet preflop. It's lolive poker where ppl don't fold. You're asking a guy who gets a stack in with 93 on K73 to fold when you have 7high... bad idea

Live poker is about making big hands and value towning opponents who will call with worse.

Just call the flop. Call a modest bet on the turn with ~psb left for river binkage


His cbet size probably translates to much of the lower part of his range, ie (air, 3rd or mid pair etc) Does my raise not have fold equity when he holds air, which I think is safe to assume is what he'll wind up in a majority of the time, on the flop?


By raising the flop, it gives us the option of firing a second barrel vs tighter opponents or taking a free card. If we raise small (a little more than a CiB for instance) on the flop, we're essentially getting to the river cheaper than c/c a moderate-sized bet on the turn.






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Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (TraptSteve @ Friday, April 23rd, 2010, 3:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Villian is an uBer LAG-tard.


THoughts? I probably would have 3-bet preflop had the cutoff folded. Villain's cbet amount and line is virtually identical to the hand where he had flopped bottom pair.
Fire the second barrel or take the free card?


So your read is that he calls with a pair of 3s and you're wanting to shove an unmade, unimproved 8-high into him (which is your only play at him on the turn)? Who's the uBer LAG-tard?
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:39 PM

Fold preflop.
Call flop.

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 04:38 PM

easiest 2nd barrel ever once you've taken this line
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (BaseJester @ Friday, April 23rd, 2010, 1:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fold preflop.
Call flop.

Have you ever seen this villain fold?



yes. he bloated a couple other pots to eventually fold.


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Posted 23 April 2010 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, April 23rd, 2010, 1:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So your read is that he calls with a pair of 3s and you're wanting to shove an unmade, unimproved *7-high into him (which is your only play at him on the turn)? Who's the uBer LAG-tard?

FYP

the villain has folded in other pots he bloated, on later streets.. he actually won his 9-3 hand and since given it all back

QUOTE (Ninja Ace @ Friday, April 23rd, 2010, 4:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
easiest 2nd barrel ever once you've taken this line


There we go! Two different views on how to play the turn.


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#10 Donnie Ray

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 08:36 PM

i would keep it small since he can call so light. call flop, check turn, value town when you hit. what do you do when you get a bunch invested and miss and he shows bottom pair again?

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 09:59 PM



i dont mind the call preflop, but i dont like the raise on the flop.

as played, firing wouldn't be that bad if u've seen him fold before.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 05:56 AM

uberLAGTARD...who's short, and who's charging us 8bbs to see a flop with our drawing hand...fold pre

#13 TraptSteve

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:52 PM

Against a tighter player I probably barrel, but I decided to take the free card. I rivered a 7, went check/check and it was good.


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