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#1 rrumsey

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 07:38 PM

no reads, what is your river play?A.) check callB.) bet foldC.) bet callPoker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 596854The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterPre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BB with 7 :club: A :3hCO raises, 2 folds, Hero callsFlop: (4.4 SB) T :ts 2 :qh 7 :jh (2 players)Hero checks, CO checksTurn: (2.2 BB) 2 :4h (2 players)Hero bets, CO callsRiver: (4.2 BB) A :5c (2 players)Hero ???
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:52 PM

I'm probably not checking any street here, personally

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 01:49 AM

View PostMills, on Thursday, March 18th, 2010, 6:52 AM, said:

I'm probably not checking any street here, personally
personally i would make a bet on the river. but be prepared too fold if neccesay. Ye bet the river maybe just over half pot but be prepared to throw them, imo.Why would you not check any street?

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 03:33 AM

We are beating a lot of his raising range here and I don't want to miss a bet.. a lot of times AK etc will float one bet here and I want that money in good.This is limit poker, it seems like you missed that.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 03:55 AM

View PostMills, on Thursday, March 18th, 2010, 11:33 AM, said:

We are beating a lot of his raising range here and I don't want to miss a bet.. a lot of times AK etc will float one bet here and I want that money in good.This is limit poker, it seems like you missed that.
sure did mills, posting in a limit thread didnt realise. lol i dont know much about limit poker.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 09:13 PM

For me this is 100% bet call on the river.You can never ever ever fold here. In fact part of me would be hoping to get raised on the river.
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Posted 18 March 2010 - 09:47 PM

I b/c the river as well.Mills, checking the flop is correct, but it's because you should be c/ring the flop. The fact he checked behind makes this an even easier b/c on the river because AQ/AK is a huge portion of his range.
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Posted 18 March 2010 - 10:26 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Thursday, March 18th, 2010, 10:47 PM, said:

I b/c the river as well.Mills, checking the flop is correct, but it's because you should be c/ring the flop. The fact he checked behind makes this an even easier b/c on the river because AQ/AK is a huge portion of his range.
This makes sense. Since hes supposed to be C betting pretty much 100% of the time here. ANd yea, its an easy river bet and a call as well.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:16 AM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Thursday, March 18th, 2010, 9:47 PM, said:

I b/c the river as well.Mills, checking the flop is correct, but it's because you should be c/ring the flop. The fact he checked behind makes this an even easier b/c on the river because AQ/AK is a huge portion of his range.
that is what i was hoping for
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:17 AM

View PostFCP Bob, on Thursday, March 18th, 2010, 9:13 PM, said:

For me this is 100% bet call on the river.You can never ever ever fold here. In fact part of me would be hoping to get raised on the river.
at a higher limit i agree but i was kinda worried this is how a passive .05-.10 player would play a draw flush imo. problem was it was like the 4th hand at the table so i knew nothing about villain
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Posted 27 March 2010 - 09:43 PM

3 bet pf is good too. Bet/call AINEC

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 12:29 AM

Bet that flop imo, bet call the river. I agree with bob in the fact that I'm never folding in this spot.
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lol... its not like you're lighting money on fire with that call or anything.

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:06 AM

View Postadamkpm, on Friday, April 2nd, 2010, 3:29 AM, said:

Bet that flop imo, bet call the river. I agree with bob in the fact that I'm never folding in this spot.
No no no no no no please no. Just don't ever donkbet in HU pots.
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 11:22 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Friday, April 30th, 2010, 12:06 AM, said:

No no no no no no please no. Just don't ever donkbet in HU pots.
You can if people are going to tiltspew bets at you for doing so. A LOT of people seem to go "OMG HE DONKBET HE HAS NOTHING" and raise/bet/bet/bet/cry when they get called down by marginal hands.Either that or if you find opponents who are ridic fit/fold and you can win more than your share of pots (which is HUGE in LHE) by just donking a bunch of flops not likely to hit their ranges and stuff.

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Thursday, April 29th, 2010, 10:06 AM, said:

No no no no no no please no. Just don't ever donkbet in HU pots.
I`ve noticed a theme in some of your advice with you saying never and always at times. While it`s true that donk betting is usually not the better play there are times that it can and should be used.The right time to use it heads up is of course going to be player and situation dependent.
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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:03 PM

Yeah, don't hold yourself to truisms; Think through situations, decide on a play and make it. While donk-betting should be a small part of your game in HU pots, it should at least be in your arsenal(FTR, I don't like it here.)




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