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#41 looshle

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 11:51 AM

ya the k5ss is the easiest jam in the world. once it folds to him, hes pretty much playing for your stack. R/f would be terrible for him.
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#42 SwolyswoND

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 04:38 PM

Seems I need a lot of work on bvb play. Looshle, can you give a general primer for the ranges to jam from the SB given various effective stack sizes?
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 03:16 PM

Play any different? Huge $4.40 on Pstars with 2k guaranteed. About 900 left out of 2800 or so. Looking back I guess I didn't need to raise the flop that much but I misread the lead size. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 4.4 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds 15 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP1 (t4895)MP2 (t9645)MP3 (t11545)Hero (CO) (t19170)Button (t4215)SB (t7825)BB (t4055)UTG (t2560)UTG+1 (t7230)Hero's M: 60.86Preflop: Hero is CO with Posted Image, Posted Image1 fold, UTG+1 calls t120, 1 fold, MP2 bets t360, MP3 calls t360, Hero calls t360, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t240Flop: (t1755) Posted Image, Posted Image, Posted Image (4 players)UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets t120, MP3 calls t120, Hero raises to t2111, 1 fold, MP2 calls t1991, MP3 calls t1991Turn: (t8088) Posted Image (3 players)MP2 checks, MP3 bets t480, Hero calls t480, MP2 calls t480River: (t9528) Posted Image (3 players)MP2 checks, MP3 bets t840, Hero calls t840,
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 09:26 PM

Nothing wrong with that raise size at all. If anything you could make a case for raising bigger. For turn/river IPITS, you can't fold given the price. MP3 is godawful, no matter what he had.
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Posted 26 March 2010 - 01:21 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Thursday, March 25th, 2010, 10:26 PM, said:

Nothing wrong with that raise size at all. If anything you could make a case for raising bigger. For turn/river IPITS, you can't fold given the price. MP3 is godawful, no matter what he had.
This.He should have dimes or JT to be able to call/call on the flop but its way too cheap on the river to fold.
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 12:44 PM

can I get away from this hand ?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2925)BB (t6950)UTG (t2113)Hero (UTG+1) (t3271)MP1 (t3165)MP2 (t3450)MP3 (t3306)CO (t2420)Button (t2400)Hero's M: 14.54Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with JPosted Image, APosted Image1 fold, Hero bets t344, 2 folds, MP3 calls t344, 4 foldsFlop: (t913) 5Posted Image, KPosted Image, 10Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets t600, MP3 calls t600Turn: (t2113) APosted Image (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t900, Hero calls t900River: (t3913) 10Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t1462 (All-In), Hero calls t1427 (All-In)Total pot: t6767

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:13 PM

Aces early postition under the gun in a cash game? One caller, Say you throw out a feeler bet and they raise you on the flop or another one was on the turn. should you fold or call til river?Board: Qs 10s 6c

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 05:28 AM

View PostBenRobbin, on Thursday, April 1st, 2010, 2:13 AM, said:

Aces early postition under the gun in a cash game? One caller, Say you throw out a feeler bet and they raise you on the flop or another one was on the turn. should you fold or call til river?
if you'd post hand histories it'd make it much easier to give analysis to hands.

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I don't mind folding out hands we beat.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:49 PM

View Postnutzzcase, on Monday, March 29th, 2010, 12:44 PM, said:

can I get away from this hand ?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2925)BB (t6950)UTG (t2113)Hero (UTG+1) (t3271)MP1 (t3165)MP2 (t3450)MP3 (t3306)CO (t2420)Button (t2400)Hero's M: 14.54Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with JPosted Image, APosted Image1 fold, Hero bets t344, 2 folds, MP3 calls t344, 4 foldsFlop: (t913) 5Posted Image, KPosted Image, 10Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets t600, MP3 calls t600Turn: (t2113) APosted Image (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t900, Hero calls t900River: (t3913) 10Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t1462 (All-In), Hero calls t1427 (All-In)Total pot: t6767
Fold Preflop. Raising with AJ there is just silly.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 01:52 PM

View PostJSpencer, on Thursday, April 1st, 2010, 1:49 PM, said:

Fold Preflop. Raising with AJ there is just silly.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 02:48 PM

View PostJSpencer, on Thursday, April 1st, 2010, 1:49 PM, said:

Fold Preflop. Raising with AJ there is just silly.
not really maybe i should have moved in actually

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 03:50 PM

ya I don't open there, I'm almost always folding.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 04:07 PM

View PostTehtoe, on Thursday, April 1st, 2010, 4:50 PM, said:

ya I don't open there, I'm almost always folding.
really? seems 2 nitty 2 me considering it's the 11$ 250K.....its kinda hard to play post flop due to my stack so maybe an all in would have been better....

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 05:40 PM

$11 25k, with about 600 left, 340 pay. Villain is new to table, any other way to play it? Posted ImageThis converter is going to be a cash cow...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($10+$1) t200/t400 ante t50 - 9 playersHJ: t18,876 CO: t21,519 Button: t13,045 SB: t1,565 BB: t28,475 UTG: t5,955 UTG+1: t10,774 MP: t30,711 MP2: t22,186 (Hero)Preflop: (t1,050) Hero is MP2 with :3h :5c (9 players)3 folds, undefined raises to t876, 4 folds, undefined raises to t2000, undefined calls t1124Flop: (t4,174) :club: :4h :qh (2 players)undefined bets t4000, undefined calls t4000Turn: (t12,174) :ts (2 players)undefined bets t8000, undefined foldsundefined collected t12650edit: stupid conerter, he was BB, had me covered

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 05:53 PM

there's really no point to open jam 21 BBs utg+1 without antes.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 10:38 PM

Late position raise pocket eights one caller on the button. I bet out 3/4 pot. he raises 3x I call. Then I check he bets out 3/4 pot. Should I just reraise him allin on the flop because its unluckly, but possible he flops the straight, or say flush whatever it is. Is it a winning play to just bulldoze people with made hands if they even have that, they could possibly have overpair or a lower set.Board: 8 4 6 rainbow

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 06:59 AM

View Postnutzzcase, on Thursday, April 1st, 2010, 5:07 PM, said:

really? seems 2 nitty 2 me considering it's the 11$ 250K.....its kinda hard to play post flop due to my stack so maybe an all in would have been better....

View PostTehtoe, on Thursday, April 1st, 2010, 6:53 PM, said:

there's really no point to open jam 21 BBs utg+1 without antes.
Yeah 100% this...no reason to raise here w/o antes
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Posted 02 April 2010 - 07:50 AM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Thursday, March 25th, 2010, 9:26 PM, said:

Nothing wrong with that raise size at all. If anything you could make a case for raising bigger. For turn/river IPITS, you can't fold given the price. MP3 is godawful, no matter what he had.
Actually, although it's unlikely, there are a few hands that MP3 could have had that may have made since here. I am sure you are saying he is awful because he just calling and not raising at any point in this hand and I, for the most part, agree. It was 360 when it got to him preflop. He just called so there is a slight chance he had pocket 9s. Of course, if he has 9s he needs to shove and get any flush draws out of the hand if possible. I don't think he just smooth calls a raise preflop w/pocket aces so that is pretty much out of the equation. However, he had a healthy stack so he may have taken a flyer and called w/6d7d, jd10d, or Adxd. Calling w/suited runners preflop would be a little loose, but if he is a fellow small baller, those are nice hands to see flops with. I got my kings snapped off yesterday when the big stack called a decent preflop raise w/7h8h and ran me down w/a flush. I think if he has any of those three hands than he actually could defend his play here. While you could say he just needs to shove after the flop, he is basically committing himself to the hand anyway and he may be able to make more if he hits his draw and just smooths him all the way down to the river. I would have shoved with any of those hands, but I could see just calling at times as well. Having said all that, I have a feeling that MP3 was probably a $4.40 PS donkey who had A5os:)

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 08:32 AM

View PostTrueAce13, on Friday, April 2nd, 2010, 7:59 AM, said:

Yeah 100% this...no reason to raise here w/o antes
our hand is pretty much like AQ are we folding AQ also here? what about AK?

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 09:20 AM

View Postnutzzcase, on Friday, April 2nd, 2010, 8:32 AM, said:

our hand is pretty much like AQ are we folding AQ also here? what about AK?
no no, our hand is closer to AQ, but AQ we are raise/calling. AK is like the nuts everytime, so we are raise/phil hellmuth'ing that.With AJ if we raise and get jammed in we have to worry about all the combos of AQ/AK, and then all the pairs obv.AQ we have to worry about smaller amount of combos AK. AJ, even tho its sooted, is just too marginal b/c if we get jammed on we are usually behind b/c no1 should be jamming worse, especially when we raise in EP
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