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#1 digitalmonkey

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:14 PM

I'd like to get a baseball pool going similar to the ahl and fchl. Anyone have any ideas and interest?

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:20 PM

in obv

You can have a simple style where Yahoo keeps stats
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 7:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd like to get a baseball pool going similar to the ahl and fchl. Anyone have any ideas and interest?


TB + SB + BB + RBI - (E + (4? x team runs allowed)) ?


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:00 PM

I am in. All the way, even though I'd have a lot of catching up to do prospect-wise.

I floated this idea in the FCHL, scoring might be tricky and rosters difficult as well. What do you do with pitchers? I kind of like the idea of treating 'pitching' almost exactly like goaltending.

I could do without errors being a part of scoring, but otherwise I'm sure whatever Duane suggested was smart.
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(2) 76'ers to win title @ 31
Webb Simpson to win US Money Title @ 17
Brandt Snedeker to win US Money Title @ 26
(5) Broncos to win the AFC @ 11
(2.5) Broncos to win the SB @ 21
(2) Bears to win SB @ 42
(0.5) Red Sox to lead AL East @ 6.5
(1.5) White Sox to lead AL Central @ 17.25
Indians to lead AL Central @ 15
Nationals to lead NL East @ 9
(0.5) Marlins to lead NL East @ 6
Padres to lead NL West @ 29
(0.5) Rockies to lead NL West @ 6.5
(0.5) Cardinals to win NL @ 9

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:02 PM

i would prefer an AL only
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 9:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i would prefer an AL only


Boo.

Fwiw, when the idea was floated in the FCHL, none of our clever programmers had enough interest to devote the necessary time to setting up a site for it. So we'd likely need to keep it relatively simple (just relatively!) unless we're going to get people willing to be as hardcore as the AHL'ers.



Long-term bets:

(2) 76'ers to win title @ 31
Webb Simpson to win US Money Title @ 17
Brandt Snedeker to win US Money Title @ 26
(5) Broncos to win the AFC @ 11
(2.5) Broncos to win the SB @ 21
(2) Bears to win SB @ 42
(0.5) Red Sox to lead AL East @ 6.5
(1.5) White Sox to lead AL Central @ 17.25
Indians to lead AL Central @ 15
Nationals to lead NL East @ 9
(0.5) Marlins to lead NL East @ 6
Padres to lead NL West @ 29
(0.5) Rockies to lead NL West @ 6.5
(0.5) Cardinals to win NL @ 9

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 8:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Boo.

Fwiw, when the idea was floated in the FCHL, none of our clever programmers had enough interest to devote the necessary time to setting up a site for it. So we'd likely need to keep it relatively simple (just relatively!) unless we're going to get people willing to be as hardcore as the AHL'ers.

I am interested. Was interested when Danny brought it up last year in the fchl.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:58 PM

I'd be in, but only if it was very simple.

I think something like batters have something like:

Single 1 point, Double 2, Triple 3, Home Run 4.

Forget RBI's, Stolen Bases, Batting %, any of that.

Then instead of having pitchers, you get teams, and every run scored is like minus one.

That way it's extremely easy to do and easy to keep track of.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 8:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i would prefer an AL only


I would prefer this too.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Ottawa_Biatch @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 8:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be in, but only if it was very simple.

I think something like batters have something like:

Single 1 point, Double 2, Triple 3, Home Run 4.

Forget RBI's, Stolen Bases, Batting %, any of that.

Then instead of having pitchers, you get teams, and every run scored is like minus one.

That way it's extremely easy to do and easy to keep track of.


That's TB; total bases (batted?)

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE (Ottawa_Biatch @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 9:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would prefer this too.


Would you guys join a hockey pool that was Eastern Conference only? This seems silly to me. How do AL-only leagues work when there is an inter-league trade? Do you just lose the player?
Long-term bets:

(2) 76'ers to win title @ 31
Webb Simpson to win US Money Title @ 17
Brandt Snedeker to win US Money Title @ 26
(5) Broncos to win the AFC @ 11
(2.5) Broncos to win the SB @ 21
(2) Bears to win SB @ 42
(0.5) Red Sox to lead AL East @ 6.5
(1.5) White Sox to lead AL Central @ 17.25
Indians to lead AL Central @ 15
Nationals to lead NL East @ 9
(0.5) Marlins to lead NL East @ 6
Padres to lead NL West @ 29
(0.5) Rockies to lead NL West @ 6.5
(0.5) Cardinals to win NL @ 9

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:49 PM

Id probably be in, but more likely if it was AL only.

Also, Id rather put in a classic 4*4 or 5*5, ie batting*pitching categories.
HR, R, RBI, SB, AVG
W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

fairly traditional.

just my 2cents.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 9:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would you guys join a hockey pool that was Eastern Conference only? This seems silly to me. How do AL-only leagues work when there is an inter-league trade? Do you just lose the player?


Because you can go deeper in a baseball pool, because it has more categories. Picking up the reserve OF on Oakland might make sense if you think hes going to steal bases for you, and you think you need that category. Your not gonna pick up Wayne Primeau in the FCHL under any circumstance.

Im in a pool that has 12 teams, AL only. It makes it much more strategic, and it works great for both the experienced (depth of the pool) and newbies to the sport (you only have to research 1 league)

In my league, its kinda cutthroat, you just lose the player that goes to NL. In others, you can keep him til the end of that year, but then hes gone.


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (Fenxis @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 9:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's TB; total bases (batted?)


Yeah, just total bases to make it easy.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE (MapleLeafpoker @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because you can go deeper in a baseball pool, because it has more categories. Picking up the reserve OF on Oakland might make sense if you think hes going to steal bases for you, and you think you need that category. Your not gonna pick up Wayne Primeau in the FCHL under any circumstance.

Im in a pool that has 12 teams, AL only. It makes it much more strategic, and it works great for both the experienced (depth of the pool) and newbies to the sport (you only have to research 1 league)

In my league, its kinda cutthroat, you just lose the player that goes to NL. In others, you can keep him til the end of that year, but then hes gone.


I disagree with this - the backup outfielder is just like picking up a 3rd-4th liner who might pick up 80 PIMs. Plus, seems like that logic applies to leagues with roto scoring, which wouldn't fit the FCHL/AHL model.

Depends how deep you want to go, but I agree it can make it more or less strategic. I think the losing a player aspect simply does not correspond with the AHL/FCHL model. Can you imagine signing a guy to a big 5-year deal, or picking a guy first overall, just to lose them forever?
Long-term bets:

(2) 76'ers to win title @ 31
Webb Simpson to win US Money Title @ 17
Brandt Snedeker to win US Money Title @ 26
(5) Broncos to win the AFC @ 11
(2.5) Broncos to win the SB @ 21
(2) Bears to win SB @ 42
(0.5) Red Sox to lead AL East @ 6.5
(1.5) White Sox to lead AL Central @ 17.25
Indians to lead AL Central @ 15
Nationals to lead NL East @ 9
(0.5) Marlins to lead NL East @ 6
Padres to lead NL West @ 29
(0.5) Rockies to lead NL West @ 6.5
(0.5) Cardinals to win NL @ 9

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Depends how deep you want to go, but I agree it can make it more or less strategic. I think the losing a player aspect simply does not correspond with the AHL/FCHL model. Can you imagine signing a guy to a big 5-year deal, or picking a guy first overall, just to lose them forever?


Yeah I think I can imagine that. Or I can just ask whoever owns Zherdev, Radulov....

I assumed it would be roto. Sorry if I was wrong, but the beauty of a baseball pool is the wide range of stats. If you just do a baseball pool based on 1 category, then yeah, just make it all of baseball, and let everyone draft only the stars.
Personally, I would find that boring. Just me.

Also, I can understand your hesitancy about a 1 league only pool. I felt the same when I joined an AL Only pool. But its awesome. Maybe Im just doing a poor job of explaining the benefits.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 9:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do AL-only leagues work when there is an inter-league trade? Do you just lose the player?


This reminded me of the old HBO show with Robert Wuhl "Arliss" where he was a sports agent. Their pool was NL only so they traded away their ace in the fantasy pool then orchestrated a trade that sent him to an american league team...lol

I loved that show.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree with this - the backup outfielder is just like picking up a 3rd-4th liner who might pick up 80 PIMs. Plus, seems like that logic applies to leagues with roto scoring, which wouldn't fit the FCHL/AHL model.


going that deep where an 80pim guy is a good player means having to have like 30poolies.

Since most pools will only have like 10-12, being AL only makes it more viable to have to know the full rosters, and not just stars.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:17 PM

I would be interested pending a look at the setup of course.
Personally I wouldn't want it to be just AL only, but it's not a breaking point for me.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 06:18 AM

I'd be more a fan if it was AL only. I like Arp's idea of how it is more cut throat if your guy gets traded.
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