how many times is this crap going to happen?

[Rocketwadster 0]

I am almost at my wits end with NL holdem, due to crap like the following:Game #679059323: Texas Hold'em No Limit (75/150) - 2005/05/24 - 10:58:07 (ET)Table "Tourney 620531 - 1" Seat 4 is the button. Seat 1: Clark003 (11390 in chips)Seat 2: Alanis (3505 in chips)Seat 3: P111ums (1785 in chips)Seat 4: Just2Good (3135 in chips)Seat 5: Blugolfer (2010 in chips)Seat 6: deanos (730 in chips)Seat 7: Kanin (5720 in chips)Seat 8: bugsym29 (7635 in chips)Seat 9: Andyla001 (4400 in chips)Seat 10: Rocketwad (1340 in chips)Blugolfer: posts small blind 75deanos: posts big blind 150----- HOLE CARDS -----dealt to Rocketwad [Ts Td]Kanin: foldsbugsym29: foldsAndyla001: calls 150Rocketwad: raises to 450Clark003: foldsAlanis: foldsP111ums: foldsJust2Good: foldsBlugolfer: foldsdeanos: foldsAndyla001: raises to 4400 and is all-inRocketwad: is all-in 890Returned uncalled bets 3,060 to Andyla001----- FLOP ----- [Qd 5d Tc]----- TURN ----- [Qd 5d Tc][4h]----- RIVER ----- [Qd 5d Tc 4h][Js]----- SHOW DOWN -----Andyla001: shows [Kd As] (A Straight, Ace high)Rocketwad: shows [Ts Td] (Three of a kind, Tens, Queen high)Andyla001 collected 2905 from Main potWay too much luck (good or bad) involved...I think I'll go back to bingo...lol :wink:

[krup24 0]

Where do u play at?

[Rocketwadster 0]

Where do u play at?

I keep jumping around, trying to clear bonuses. This hand was froM Carribean Sun. :cry:

[bascomeb 0]

was this a tourney. did you just relaly call that much preflop with a pair of 10s in a cash game? what is wrong with you?and why are you complaining? its not like you went all in on the flop idiot. its a race. typical whiner

[Rocketwadster 0]

was this a tourney. did you just relaly call that much preflop with a pair of 10s in a cash game? what is wrong with you?and why are you complaining? its not like you went all in on the flop idiot. its a race. typical whiner

it was a tourney...I had the lead pre-flop and on every street but the river. It's called a bad beat, not whining, dumbazz. :wink:

[allinbluff35 0]

it was a tourney...I had the lead pre-flop and on every street but the river. It's called a bad beat, not whining, dumbazz.a coinflip is not a bad beat, at all, not even close to one, lose a dime or two in a night from backdoor flushes and gutshot straight draws then you can bitch about a bad beat.

[Rocketwadster 0]

it was a tourney...I had the lead pre-flop and on every street but the river. It's called a bad beat, not whining, dumbazz.a coinflip is not a bad beat, at all, not even close to one, lose a dime or two in a night from backdoor flushes and gutshot straight draws then you can censored about a bad beat.

It most certianly is a bad beat. When it got ready for the river, they guy had exactly 4 outs, and caught one of them. Are you trying to say that when Ferguson won match 2 (of 3) against Hellmuth by catching one of his 4 outs on the river, it wasn't a bad beat for Phil. Give your head a shake, man. I had the lead the entire way, and lost when I was a huge favorite to win. That is the very definition of a bad beat. :wink:

[GamblinLeaf 0]

it was a tourney...I had the lead pre-flop and on every street but the river. It's called a bad beat, not whining, dumbazz.a coinflip is not a bad beat, at all, not even close to one, lose a dime or two in a night from backdoor flushes and gutshot straight draws then you can censored about a bad beat.

It most certianly is a bad beat. When it got ready for the river, they guy had exactly 4 outs, and caught one of them. Are you trying to say that when Ferguson won match 2 (of 3) against Hellmuth by catching one of his 4 outs on the river, it wasn't a bad beat for Phil. Give your head a shake, man. I had the lead the entire way, and lost when I was a huge favorite to win. That is the very definition of a bad beat. :wink:

Hey Rocket, this probably isn't going to make you feel any better, but it might, (and I'm not at all trying to piss in your wheaties) but the PRE-flop odds of TT vs. AK is exactly 56.5% to 43.5%. That's an edge for sure, but not a dominating position. Now ... if you'd had the opportunity to push POST-flop, after flopping a set, then yeah, losing when you're an 83% - 17% favorite hurts. But given that you were forced all-in pre-flop, it really was a race situation. The fact that he got there by hitting runner-runner sucks, but it doesn't change the pre-flop, more-or-less coin-flip odds.

[Rocketwadster 0]

Hey Rocket, this probably isn't going to make you feel any better, but it might, (and I'm not at all trying to piss in your wheaties) but the PRE-flop odds of TT vs. AK is exactly 56.5% to 43.5%. That's an edge for sure, but not a dominating position. Now ... if you'd had the opportunity to push POST-flop, after flopping a set, then yeah, losing when you're an 83% - 17% favorite hurts. But given that you were forced all-in pre-flop, it really was a race situation. The fact that he got there by hitting runner-runner sucks, but it doesn't change the pre-flop, more-or-less coin-flip odds.

I know that it is called a coin-flip pre-flop, but I WAS in the lead. Then, after the flop, I was way out in front, and lost on the river. It IS a bad beat, and talking about it certainly doesn't make me feel any better...lol :wink: