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[KingJames]

Awesome dog and awesome of you to rescue him, Jon!

[QED]

Looks like a cool dog. You need to train him to bark everytime you get K9ss.

[XXEddie]

droberts, on Monday, November 14th, 2011, 11:24 AM, said:

3517325[/url]']why didnt u bet ur AK on that board again on the turn?

Yeah this was obviously a huge derp by me. Villain was generally pretty TAG. I had never seen him limp/call UTG then just check/call like that. Made me think he was huge and I guess I got a little scared. I talked to him a bit ago and he said he thought the flop was AT5 not AT6 and he wanted to call to see "if I had an ace". He said he was gonna bet the river anyway but before he bet realized he misread the board and had a straight.

[QED]

Taking some shots at 25NL today, gonna try not to turbo busto it.

[KingJames]

QED, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 12:13 PM, said:

Taking some shots at 25NL today, gonna try not to turbo busto it.

Good luck

[QED]

KingJames, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 7:43 PM, said:

Good luck

Thanks. Different level, same fish.This converter is going to be a cash cow...HEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 7 playersSB: $10.00 BB: $25.00 (Hero)UTG: $29.70 UTG+1: $8.80 HJ: $26.70 CO: $27.52 Button: $24.52 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with (7 players)4 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.00, Button raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $6.00, Button raises to $9.25, Hero raises to $25.00, Button calls $15.27Flop: ($49.14) (2 players)Turn: ($49.14) (2 players)River: ($49.14) (2 players)Hero showed , Button showed , Hero won $47.14

[KingJames]

He had a pair and it's btn vs blinds, super wide ranges obv and he's crushing you when you have A2s or 33

[SuperJon]

So we all know that 3betting on the btn vs co can be super profitable.What about flatting a really wide range, hands like 67o, K8o, J7s? In the past, I was always taught to just fold those hands because of domination, implied odds, etc. All valid reasons. However, if we have a post flop advantage as well as position, then I almost think it can be okay at times. I mean, those hands against a standard 3x raise are either slightly -EV or 0EV.So is it okay to take those slightly -EV spots pre flop because we're able to put ourselves into more +EV spots post flop?

[babylondonks]

I think in general it's better to be 3betting a polarised range and flatting the hands in the middle in BTN vs. CO situations. If you're flatting J7s/K8o there, what sort of hands are you 3betting?

[SuperJon]

babylondonks, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 9:54 PM, said:

I think in general it's better to be 3betting a polarised range and flatting the hands in the middle in BTN vs. CO situations. If you're flatting J7s/K8o there, what sort of hands are you 3betting?

I would still 3bet those hands in addition to a polarized range, but I would maybe split the frequency that I flat vs. 3bet hands like J7s and K8o if only to keep my range from becoming stagnant.

[SuperJon]

So yeah...run good much?About 8 buyins in 259 hands (all 4nl). 149.95 BB/100 totally sustainable right?

[KingJames]

nice giraffe

[QED]

If you start flatting the btn a lot behind the CO I would think you have to watch out for the blinds squeezing a lot, don't think people ever believe you when you back raise them there so it's just putting out dead money isn't it?

[trystero]

KingJames, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 6:30 PM, said:

He had a pair and it's btn vs blinds, super wide ranges obv and he's crushing you when you have A2s or 33

James speaks from experience. I saw him play almost the identical hand against fighter, as James had 44 or 55 and fighter had the A3

[trystero]

SuperJon, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 10:01 PM, said:

I would still 3bet those hands in addition to a polarized range, but I would maybe split the frequency that I flat vs. 3bet hands like J7s and K8o if only to keep my range from becoming stagnant.

just 3-bet imo, way harder to deal with out of position than you flatting

[KingJames]

trystero, on Thursday, November 17th, 2011, 11:21 AM, said:

James speaks from experience. I saw him play almost the identical hand against fighter, as James had 44 or 55 and fighter had the A3

Converted by a herd of feral cowsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersButton trystero: $10.52 SB Hero: $13.12 BB Donate Blood: $10.00 UTG Runlikethesun: $20.91 UTG+1 The1Kos: $11.11 CO big fat kitty: $10.50 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with (6 players)2 folds, big fat kitty raises to $0.30, trystero folds, Hero raises to $1, Donate Blood raises to $2, big fat kitty folds, Hero raises to $4.40, Donate Blood raises to $10, and is all in, Hero calls $5.60Flop: ($20.45) (2 players)Turn: ($20.45) (2 players)River: ($20.45) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($18.95) with a pair of FoursDonate Blood showed , and lost with Ace King highHero won $18.95(Rake: $1.35)

[fighter]

QED, on Friday, November 18th, 2011, 4:18 AM, said:

If you start flatting the btn a lot behind the CO I would think you have to watch out for the blinds squeezing a lot, don't think people ever believe you when you back raise them there so it's just putting out dead money isn't it?

Yeah but no one has the balls to 5 bet bluff all in either. If they start getting that crazy then set a tarp for them.

trystero, on Friday, November 18th, 2011, 4:21 AM, said:

James speaks from experience. I saw him play almost the identical hand against fighter, as James had 44 or 55 and fighter had the A3

if I have A3 then I have all the other Ax's. Amount of times he just gifts me a coin flip in that situation is criminal. Not to mention that 77's are loving life after making marginal to slightly losing plays. If there wasn't situations in which playing ATC was profitable then I wouldn't play 22-44. Just such shitty hands.

[SuperJon]

Because it's been awhile since I spewed like a champMerge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 playersHand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.comUTG: $4.18CO: $3.86BTN: $2.40SB: $3.96Hero (BB): $5.97SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 7s 8sfold, CO raises to $0.12, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.38, CO calls $0.26Flop: ($0.78, 2 players) Qh Js QdHero checks, CO checksTurn: ($0.78, 2 players) 5cHero bets $0.32, CO calls $0.32River: ($1.42, 2 players) TcHero bets $0.66, CO raises to $2.03, Hero raises to $3.40, fold

[trystero]

KingJames, on Thursday, November 17th, 2011, 4:26 PM, said:

Converted by a herd of feral cowsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersButton trystero: $10.52 SB Hero: $13.12 BB Donate Blood: $10.00 UTG Runlikethesun: $20.91 UTG+1 The1Kos: $11.11 CO big fat kitty: $10.50 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with (6 players)2 folds, big fat kitty raises to $0.30, trystero folds, Hero raises to $1, Donate Blood raises to $2, big fat kitty folds, Hero raises to $4.40, Donate Blood raises to $10, and is all in, Hero calls $5.60Flop: ($20.45) (2 players)Turn: ($20.45) (2 players)River: ($20.45) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($18.95) with a pair of FoursDonate Blood showed , and lost with Ace King highHero won $18.95(Rake: $1.35)

I have that Doyle Brunson memory.

[KingJames]

trystero, on Saturday, November 19th, 2011, 5:25 PM, said:

I have that Doyle Brunson memory.

meh, cold 4bet sb vs bb not btn vs blinds;)