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Posted 30 May 2011 - 04:19 PM

View PostSuperJon, on Monday, May 30th, 2011, 11:20 AM, said:

Well I think I really need to stay away from playing live until I can scrap together a proper BR.I just find myself playing way too passive.I did play yesterday, and lost, but had a pretty awesome hand at one point.I complete SB with 98o after 4 or 5 limpers.Flop is 10 6 7 rainbow. All the action leads to a 4 way all in. Me and another play both have 98, and the two other players each have top and middle set.The straights hold up, and I end up chopping a pretty big pot.
oh babylast night at a home game I double floated and shoved over a river bet vs a rivered flush... didn't think he donked flush draws multiway :/Then a few hands later I lost with the black aces on T84sss to J3ssIt was lame but overall a very good weekend
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 04:35 PM

I also folded a (split) winner.I had teh QJo in the co.There is a straddle and a small raise. I flat co. We go 6 way to the flop for $2.5 each.K88hhIt checks to the river after running outAsThSo I have that nut straight and 2nd to last to act.Pot is $15, 2 checks, one of the limpers bets $11, high jack who made the small raise pre calls...btn is cutting chips (either a call or raise i dunno), so I tank/fold and cry as btn called with QJo as well and beat the limpers AX and hj's ATfml for being so bad at poker and live hand histories...
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 07:39 PM

So great!!! I think he's trying to get me off of diamonds... thoughts?Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 4 playersDeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterBB: $2.88Hero (CO): $4.32BTN: $4.00SB: $2.68Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is CO with Posted Image Posted ImageHero raises to $0.14, BTN calls $0.14, 2 foldsFlop: ($0.34) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets $0.24, BTN calls $0.24Turn: ($0.82) Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets $0.64, BTN calls $0.64River: ($2.10) Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets $1.24, BTN raises to $2.98 all in, Hero calls $1.74Final Pot: $8.06Hero shows Posted Image Posted Image (Full House - Kings over Sevens)BTN shows Posted Image Posted ImageHero wins $7.66(Rake: $0.40)
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 07:53 PM

STRAT HAND!!!!!I am really bad in these spots. I honestly don't even know what variables to consider when deciding river action.Villain is 51/50/2AF over 18 hands. 0 fold to cbet. If I remember correctly tho this was only the 3rd hand I had vs villain so it's mostly just readless.My reasons for checking would be that the draws missed, making him more likely to call with 88, 7x etc perhaps. Also, the 9 pairs and a lot of his c/c twice range will be flopped top pair.My reasons for betting would be to move him off of AXdd, 7x (I put 7x in both ranges as I dont know what a random fish does here with a 7), and worse pairs. And I want to win the pot :qh Also, if we do bluff the river, what kind of sizing is best? $1.20?Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 6 playersDeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterCO: $2.48Hero (BTN): $4.00SB: $6.92BB: $9.89UTG: $7.02MP: $7.51Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with T :club: Q :ts3 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.08, 1 foldFlop: ($0.24) 3 :4h 9 :5c 7 :jh (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20Turn: ($0.64) K :D (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50River: ($1.64) 9 :3h (2 players)SB checks,
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 09:53 PM

View PostKingJames, on Monday, May 30th, 2011, 7:15 AM, said:

TempNinja, PM me your sn?? Also, how many tables do they allow?
No need to keep my sn a secret. I have like, a job now... grinding is no longer teh serious, which is the way I like it.Sn on lock: shartedmyselfAs far as # of tables, dunno, i had no problem loading 8. You're really gonna find yourself limited by traffic though.
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 09:56 PM

View PostKingJames, on Monday, May 30th, 2011, 7:53 PM, said:

STRAT HAND!!!!!I am really bad in these spots. I honestly don't even know what variables to consider when deciding river action.Villain is 51/50/2AF over 18 hands. 0 fold to cbet. If I remember correctly tho this was only the 3rd hand I had vs villain so it's mostly just readless.My reasons for checking would be that the draws missed, making him more likely to call with 88, 7x etc perhaps. Also, the 9 pairs and a lot of his c/c twice range will be flopped top pair.My reasons for betting would be to move him off of AXdd, 7x (I put 7x in both ranges as I dont know what a random fish does here with a 7), and worse pairs. And I want to win the pot :qh Also, if we do bluff the river, what kind of sizing is best? $1.20?Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 6 playersDeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterCO: $2.48Hero (BTN): $4.00SB: $6.92BB: $9.89UTG: $7.02MP: $7.51Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with T :club: Q :ts3 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.08, 1 foldFlop: ($0.24) 3 :4h 9 :5c 7 :jh (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20Turn: ($0.64) K :D (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50River: ($1.64) 9 :3h (2 players)SB checks,
give up. there's only 1 draw better than yours... if you had 6 high there might be a reason to fire half pot
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 02:13 AM

James, in general I would be firing all but the worst rivers once I bet that turn.I wouldn't consider the 9 a horrible card on the river, but it's not great, so I don't mind checking behind since it could be harder to get him to fold.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 03:31 AM

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 05:47 AM

I have a bunch of hands from today and yesterday that I want some input on, I hope you're interested :club:Posted ImageYour converted hand, now with more cowbell.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersCO: $23.43 Button: $26.41 SB: $27.14 (Hero)BB: $20.69 UTG: $8.11 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with :club: :ts (5 players)UTG raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2, Button folds, Hero calls $1.90, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25Flop: ($6.25) :qh :5c :jh (3 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $6.11 and is all-in, CO raises to $12.22, Hero foldsTurn: ($18.47) :D (2 players)River: ($18.47) :4h (2 players)
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(Rake: $0.90)Since I'm a newish player, I mean I have played for like a year now but probably have under 50k hands, with a huge gap of nothing in the middle of them. And only 20k of them have been on a site with competent players, so I'm not too confident with my reads and so on. Now, I figured him raising here was a sign of weakness more than strength, maybe a hand like AK or AQ with a flush draw, even AJ+FD given the two players involved. I thought I could call here, but, even if I was right about him having AK or something, I won't be right 100% of the time and he would have outs so I folded. Would calling here be wrong? I was really unhappy folding and it took me a while to do it.Posted ImageFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO: $31.18 (Hero)Button: $52.03 SB: $26.91 BB: $24.02 UTG: $6.81 UTG+1: $21.65 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with :3h :5c (6 players)UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB foldsFlop: ($3.25) :( :D :4h (4 players)SB checks, UTG bets $3.25, Hero raises to $9, Button raises to $51.28 and is all-in, SB folds, UTG calls $2.81 and is all-in, Hero calls $21.43 and is all-inTurn: ($70.17) :D (3 players)River: ($70.17) :qc (3 players)
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(Rake: $2)Am I ever folding here? I don't think so (not being results oriented, I swear), my only concern was that the player seemed pretty passive, so I wasn't quite sure but I snapped him off anyways. I'm pretty sure I was right on this hand, but this was in my list of hands so I figured I may as well post it here just to see your opinions...Posted ImageMilked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG: $37.11 UTG+1: $25.00 CO: $13.01 Button: $29.63 (Hero)SB: $30.31 BB: $31.08 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with Posted Image Posted Image (6 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($1.60) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1Turn: ($3.60) Posted Image (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($3.60) Posted Image (2 players)BB bets $2, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3Hero showed Posted Image Posted Image, and lost with a flush(Rake: $0.67)Spew? I bet a lot of these boards that are horrible, however, since I didn't barrel the ace, it kind of kills my credibility since I didn't rep the flush draw on turn. Thoughts?Posted Imageonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $36.76 CO: $26.76 Button: $14.27 SB: $25.00 (Hero)BB: $29.81 UTG: $34.96 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Posted Image Posted Image (6 players)4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $3.50Flop: ($12.10) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, BB checksTurn: ($12.10) Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, BB checksRiver: ($12.10) Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $7, Hero foldsBB collected $11.40(Rake: $0.60)This was an interesting hand... The big blind didn't have a really high 3bet %, but 100% of them were from the big blind (25% from the big blind over like 20 hands, not 20 total hands but 20 hands where he had the opportunity to 3bet in the big blind) I figured this could be an okay spot to 4bet/fold but then he called and I had no idea what to do. If I check I'm basically giving up on the hand, although I thought about calling the river, but if I cbet he is probably shipping it a good chunk of the time since most of the time people have just called my 4bets they have had JJ, QQ or AK (Which could have a flush draw or flopped flush anyways). This hand would be awesome to get some input on...Posted ImageFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 2 playersBB: $51.05 Button: $33.58 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with :D :3d (2 players)Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.41, Hero calls $1.66Flop: ($4.82) :D :D :( (2 players)BB bets $3.66, Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $35, Hero calls $21.17 and is all-inTurn: ($67.16) :qh (2 players)River: ($67.16) :D (2 players)
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(Rake: $0.50)I thought about 4betting here, but I felt I would have to call if I got shipped on because I 3bet him the last two hands as well and I haven't played heads up for a long long time, but I don't think stacking off 130BB deep with 88 is that great of an idea although I could be wrong. Since I called, fine as played? I mean, overpair heads up is the nuts right? :club:Moooooooooooraaawwwr.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB: $26.70 BB: $29.62 UTG: $25.00 (Hero)UTG+1: $16.68 CO: $25.44 Button: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with :D :ts (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($1.60) :7s :3h :jh (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2Turn: ($7.60) :club: (2 players)BB bets $4.75, Hero raises to $15.25, [spoiler]BB foldsHero collected $16.27(Rake: $0.83)I actually wasn't so happy with myself for even calling the flop, and for my raise on the turn. He had no history of making random check raises, and unless he had 45 I don't know how often he is folding. Am I totally off in thinking this was horrible by me, or no?Anyways, thanks, I usually just dump all my hands into a text file until I finally force myself to posting it here, sorry!/wall of text

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 09:02 AM

For the TT hand, I'm not 100% what ranges people call 3 bets with in 6max but in general multiway pots keep people pretty honest about the strength of thier hand. I think getting TT in here 3 way would be unprofitable, if you play with poker stove and some ranges I think you will find you don't have good equity here.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 10:27 AM

Signed up for Lock, hopefully I will get the rakeback as well. Now time to clear the 200% BONUS. Hopefully there isnt an expiry on it, or I wont be able to clear it all I dont think.Time to bum hunt some fish on there... Hey James, whats your Lock sn?

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 10:34 AM

View PostKosinTrouble, on Tuesday, May 31st, 2011, 12:27 PM, said:

Signed up for Lock, hopefully I will get the rakeback as well. Now time to clear the 200% BONUS. Hopefully there isnt an expiry on it, or I wont be able to clear it all I dont think.Time to bum hunt some fish on there... Hey James, whats your Lock sn?
haha... no time limit on the bonus, btw
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 02:51 PM

View PostQED, on Saturday, April 30th, 2011, 10:22 PM, said:

May goalsProfitIron man
[ ] Profit[x] Iron manSo I started out the month going to grind up enough at 25NL to take my millionth shot at 50NL. I got massively dumped on at 25NL so I moved to 10NL to just get some winning sessions and confidence back and got massively dumped on there too. Posted ImageI ended up running about 8 buy ins under EV which really didn't help at all. Going to grind some 10NL and hopefully move back to 25NL once I'm winning consistantly again. TotalPoker: -$317.7Rake back etc: $141.85= -175.85Hands 70k (32.6k @10nl) June goals PROFITIron man

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 03:07 PM

View PostQED, on Tuesday, May 31st, 2011, 6:51 PM, said:

[ ] Profit[x] Iron manSo I started out the month going to grind up enough at 25NL to take my millionth shot at 50NL. I got massively dumped on at 25NL so I moved to 10NL to just get some winning sessions and confidence back and got massively dumped on there too. Posted ImageI ended up running about 8 buy ins under EV which really didn't help at all. Going to grind some 10NL and hopefully move back to 25NL once I'm winning consistantly again. TotalPoker: -$317.7Rake back etc: $141.85= -175.85Hands 70k (32.6k @10nl) June goals PROFITIron man
I know I've said it before, but seriously, play less tables. Just for one month, give it a shot.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 03:41 PM

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 03:41 PM

So I tried emailing to a couple different places about getting rakeback on an existing account with Lock.I think I may have found a place to do it, but I'm not entirely sure, so I'm just waiting to hear back.*fingers crossed*
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 04:09 PM

Not sure how many Lock players we have now (Me, James, Ninja, Kosin??) Any others?Would any of you guys be interested in some sort of cheap (very cheap) win rate bet for the month of June?Something like: 1. Winner will be the person who has the highest winrate in terms of BB/1002. Minimum of 12,000 hands. I think this can be negotiated. Me personally, I'll have a hard enough time getting to 10k hands with my schedule of play now.3. Only your graph/stats from PT3 or HEM will count. I'm sure there's other stuff if you guys can think of anything. Just running this off the top of my head.As for the bet, I was thinking something in the $5 to $10 range.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 04:19 PM

View PostQED, on Tuesday, May 31st, 2011, 10:02 AM, said:

For the TT hand, I'm not 100% what ranges people call 3 bets with in 6max but in general multiway pots keep people pretty honest about the strength of thier hand. I think getting TT in here 3 way would be unprofitable, if you play with poker stove and some ranges I think you will find you don't have good equity here.
I put him on any pocket pair, and figured there was a decent chance he would have 4bet QQ+ pre. I also thought he could have a hand like KJ, AJ, JT and a few other hands. He snapped off some other guy's 3bet with 9To earlier, so I figured he had quite a calling range.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 06:43 PM

View PostSuperJon, on Tuesday, May 31st, 2011, 4:09 PM, said:

Not sure how many Lock players we have now (Me, James, Ninja, Kosin??) Any others?Would any of you guys be interested in some sort of cheap (very cheap) win rate bet for the month of June?
Unfortunately I will be hitting the 12k lines of code mark before the 12k hands mark. I'm working at a start up right now, and all my work is from home... and I inherited a steaming pile of shit that's supposed to be in production in an hour according to the original deadline LOL. I doubt I will see more than 10 hours to play this month... because I refuse to give up my anime and forum browsing is what I do waiting for Eclipse to stop being the worst IDE ever. **** Java. When I start building the new parts I'm telling my boss we're switching to Python.
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"Mixing it up" doesn't magically rationalize anything you do. It's like you walk up to a pencil sharpener, pencil in hand, and think, "Everyone expects me to sharpen this pencil, but I'm going to mix it up." Then you whip out your cock and sharpen that instead and yell, "Ha ha, bitches, you never saw that coming!" Well, no, they didn't. But you still have a dull pencil and bleeding dick.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 06:45 PM

QED, how often do you 3bet over late position out of the blinds? This is kind of key to beating 50NL. Do what jon says and get a few less tables so you can pick out these spots
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Just got slow rolled by some random with aces, time to take an automatic weapon to the nearest crowded public space.


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"Mixing it up" doesn't magically rationalize anything you do. It's like you walk up to a pencil sharpener, pencil in hand, and think, "Everyone expects me to sharpen this pencil, but I'm going to mix it up." Then you whip out your cock and sharpen that instead and yell, "Ha ha, bitches, you never saw that coming!" Well, no, they didn't. But you still have a dull pencil and bleeding dick.




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