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[SuperJon]

Well I butchered the hand completely, but I got my first royal flush.

[Nashtak]

SuperJon, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 12:10 AM, said:

Well I butchered the hand completely, but I got my first royal flush.

My dad is mind boggled every time he sees me fold K10 suited preflop. ''You couldda hit a royal flush!'' he says... well at least my dad knows about a royal flush, therefor he's better than your dad at poker.

[babylondonks]

Ninja Ace, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 12:28 PM, said:

TBH I think they're at the low point right now. With casinos opening up with poker around the states in response to the budgeting crisis it's only going to draw a larger and larger player pool while breaking down more legal barriers.

trystero, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 2:02 PM, said:

Yea that's the point. You introduce like a billion terrible poker players...and you've got another poker boom on your hands. I was agreeing with you. English

It's been at this point for a while though, and if games do never get better (a possibility) then I'm in a good position. If they do get better, I'm in a GREAT position imo.

[Ninja Ace]

babylondonks, on Tuesday, February 23rd, 2010, 9:31 PM, said:

It's been at this point for a while though, and if games do never get better (a possibility) then I'm in a good position. If they do get better, I'm in a GREAT position imo.

Do you mean action wise or legally? I mean both statements are true but just curious.The thing is though, legal action HAS finally taken the first few steps towards poker... not just a bunch of bills going nowhere and lobbying. I'm excited bc PA has now passed table games and they will be here in June. I've heard a bunch of other states are joining the club as well.This also, surprisingly, boosts online action as well. Most casual players who don't play online refuse to bc they think the games are rigged or still think you can't deposit etc etc. When somebody like me sits down at a game decked out in Full Tilt gear it draws questions and eventually deposits. I'm certain personally I've gotten at least 50 people to start playing online... if I start playing live a lot I will probably print business cards rakeback linkage

[Nashtak]

Converted by a herd of feral cowsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 7 playersUTG: $0.65 UTG+1: $2.00 HJ: $2.18 CO: $2.08 Button: $1.01 SB: $1.00 (Hero)BB: $2.00 http://www.fullconta...u...d=3299052Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with (7 players)UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Button raises to $0.09, Hero calls $0.08, BB folds, UTG raises to $0.65, and is all in, Button calls $0.56Shortstacking on multiple tables. Is this an obvious shove with a shortstack vs 2NL fishes or a fold to a coin flip if not a domination

[Ninja Ace]

plz 3ball this preflop... i know it's FR but you're shorthanded. Shoving and folding are both viable options. Folding reduces variance while shoving is more profitable. Calling puts you in a gross spot where you don't get paid off often enough since its a protected pot.

[babylondonks]

Ninja Ace, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 5:57 PM, said:

Do you mean action wise or legally? I mean both statements are true but just curious.The thing is though, legal action HAS finally taken the first few steps towards poker... not just a bunch of bills going nowhere and lobbying. I'm excited bc PA has now passed table games and they will be here in June. I've heard a bunch of other states are joining the club as well.This also, surprisingly, boosts online action as well. Most casual players who don't play online refuse to bc they think the games are rigged or still think you can't deposit etc etc. When somebody like me sits down at a game decked out in Full Tilt gear it draws questions and eventually deposits. I'm certain personally I've gotten at least 50 people to start playing online... if I start playing live a lot I will probably print business cards rakeback linkage

I more meant action wise, I realise some steps have been taken recently. But I'm fairly sure games have gotten worse over the last year. I can't say it definitively because I have improved a lot over that time and only had $200 online this time last year; but from what I've observed they seem to have become worse.

[babylondonks]

Epic fail hand of the dayConverted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt Pot Limit Hold'em $0.50/$1 - 6 playersSB: $375.35 BB: $200.00 (Hero)UTG: $197.75 UTG+1: $86.25 CO: $100.00 Button: $142.50 Preflop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $17, UTG folds, Button calls $13, SB calls $13Flop: ($52.00) (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $26, Button calls $26, SB foldsTurn: ($104.00) (2 players)Hero bets $104, Button calls $99.50, and is all inRiver: ($303.00) (2 players)Hero showed , and lost with three of a kind, TensButton showed , and won ($300) with a full house, Tens full of QueensButton won $300(Rake: $3)

[babylondonks]

Scratch that, this one is even more failbeware the feral cow packs. they hunger.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.50/$1 - 6 playersUTG+1: $35.35 CO: $205.50 Button: $48.00 SB: $117.55 BB: $101.50 UTG: $160.95 (Hero)Preflop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $4, 3 foldsFlop: ($9.50) (2 players)Hero bets $7, CO calls $7Turn: ($23.50) (2 players)Hero checks, CO checksRiver: ($23.50) (2 players)Hero bets $16, CO raises to $46, Hero calls $30CO showed , and won ($112.50) with two pair, Nines and FivesHero mucked CO won $112.50(Rake: $3)

[Ninja Ace]

Yeah... I don't think even I'd barrel the turn on this board in the AK hand and I fire the 2nd barrel retardedly often in 3balled pots.How do we feel about a c-r on this flop?Also, in the A-9 hand I'm definitely firing this turn

[babylondonks]

Ninja Ace, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 11:49 PM, said:

Yeah... I don't think even I'd barrel the turn on this board in the AK hand and I fire the 2nd barrel retardedly often in 3balled pots.How do we feel about a c-r on this flop?Also, in the A-9 hand I'm definitely firing this turn

I think betting turn in the AK hand is > c/r flop by a mile. His flatting range there is like pocket pairs and connectors/broadways. Almost that whole range checks back flop except for like 89s because of showdown value. Meanwhile by betting he folds all of his hands except for pocket pairs and probably a few of those too and when I shove the turn he is folding any pair <JJ just about always. Even JJ would be a tough call. Meanwhile I have AA/KK blockers (and he 4bets those most of the time, QQ sometimes) so only a very small portion of his range can call a potsize shove because we look like a lolstrong AA/KK trying to induce a wtf call from a pocket pair. Oh and we have 6 outs too.A9 hand I think barreling turn is fine but this guy has an AF of 10 so I think he bluffraises me a ton on the turn and then I get into a really tricky spot OOP. If he bet turn I was also highly considering the old c/r too.

[fighter]

KingJames, on Tuesday, February 23rd, 2010, 12:29 PM, said:

Isn't 66 a fold utg at FR?As played bet/foldTry to get to showdown if called and ui

I don't like B/F. You will rarely get called by worse since your perceived UTG range contains ALOT more higher pocket pairs. I would c/f.

[KingJames]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PJO4ENQWI made a video, 4 tabling 10nlHit me up with thoughts if you watch it <3

[Syntonic]

KingJames, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 10:46 AM, said:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PJO4ENQWI made a video, 4 tabling 10nlHit me up with thoughts if you watch it <3

Good vid. I wish you would call more in position with speculative hands. But, that's because I'm biased. I like playing flops.5:55 omg call with 54 suited7:15 raising K10 is ok - I would probably just call. You should have looked at that guys stats before firing a continuation bet. FCB = 08:15 I probably call with 10-7 suited here, but you're OOP so it's not so bad. I'm not afraid to play these donks OOP lol.9:35 b/f is ok, but I think checking to him is better. Lots of underpairs are in his range, I would let me try to bluff me (he probably thinks you have A high here)10:40 wp obv. This is a good example as to why you should play your monster hands strong13:00 FCB=0 again. On these boards, I usually check it back. I don't want to give people an opportunity to check raise me off the best hand with a worse A high. If the board came Q high, that's a good board to CB, but not 667. He called a three-bet OOP - lots of pairs are in his range, which will most likely check raise you here. So, I would check the flop, call most of his turn bets, and then decide what to do on the river after that based on the turn/river cards.14:30 Everything is good until the turn. You should bet more on the turn 3.xx, not 2.50. Flush draws are definitely in his range. His blocker bet is actually really good for you, because Jxh would almost never make that bet. Jxh could CRAI, but he bet out. In fact, I think because of his blocker bet, he can only have a K here - he probably puts YOU on a flush draw. Therefore, I think shoving (making it look like you missed) for value is best here. And, I'm not just saying that because you have AA...I think his betting reveals his hand.17:40 Ugh, yeah same thing with my HUD. If you use Spaces, it wipes out all HUDs for one hand. Really annoying if you go to switch music and you're in the middle of a hand without stats.22:40 Yes, limp 78.28:00 lolol. "Syntonic is getting excited about the $50 bonus."29:05 wow wow. I paused the video, so I don't know the outcome...Seriously, you're going to c/r him on that board? I just don't think this is profitable.29:45 No, I don't think it's a leak to set mine by flatting OOP. Against his stats, I would raise though. You have 88 and he's an UTG raiser with 29/24. VS most, I would flat, but I would raise him.30:15 I agree. Good C/R. Don't bet so much on the turn, though. Bet like 2.75. Actually, checking to him would probably be pretty good. I doubt his has QQ+. He probably has 9s or AK.

[Ninja Ace]

So since like 80% of my roll is tied up in future rakeback payments I've been forced to start short stacking again :\For those of you who loath and despise it, I will remind you that when short rolled it will actually *increase* your hourly rate.Cons:Lose value on giant hands as you can't win a big pot. Expect your winrate in terms of BB to drop at least 50%Karma, bc eff short stacks and all thatPros:Play with higher blinds than you are traditionally rolled for. Winning 2BB/100 at .10/.25 is the same as winning 5BB/100 at .05/.10Play more tables since your decisions are more basic.Aggressive play becomes more optimal.Increase your rakeback totals (since it works off of MGR anyhow) making a tremendous difference in your $/hr.

[KingJames]

TY syntonicI'll look up those hands bc I don't know what you're saying.... But I do know what you're saying about c-bets; believe it or not I've actually lowered my c-bet % from like 75% to 67% or something...

[Nashtak]

Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 9 playersSB: $2.32 BB: $1.32 UTG: $2.00 UTG+1: $1.44 MP: $2.01 MP2: $2.29 HJ: $1.90 CO: $1.95 Button: $1.05 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is Button with (9 players)6 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB folds, BB raises to $0.25, Hero foldsBB won $0.17(Rake: $0)I think folding was stupid. But SSing at 2NL, i threat those hands like a fold or shove in this spot. Guess i don't like shoving into a coinflip/dominated spot. Leak?

[Syntonic]

You're both playing with 50BBs so I would shove as long as the villain isn't uber tight. Hell, I'd probably shove anyways. You're on the button, so he knows that your range is much larger. Maybe I'm thinking too far above the average 2NL player though, haha.Yeah, I don't know. I wish I had more insight for you. I think it's fine, but I prefer a shove.

[Syntonic]

James wanted me to post an "interesting" hand, so I'll post this. I don't think it's that interesting, I'm just trying to kill his boredom.Villain is 27/21/83Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB ($50)Hero (UTG) ($85.15)MP ($68.85)Button ($50)SB ($16.80)Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8, 8Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, 2 foldsFlop: ($4.25) 6, 2, 3 (2 players)Hero bets $3, Button calls $3Turn: ($10.25) Q (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50River: ($23.25) 9 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $11.50

[KosinTrouble]

Syntonic, on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010, 3:19 PM, said:

You're both playing with 50BBs so I would shove as long as the villain isn't uber tight. Hell, I'd probably shove anyways. You're on the button, so he knows that your range is much larger. Maybe I'm thinking too far above the average 2NL player though, haha.Yeah, I don't know. I wish I had more insight for you. I think it's fine, but I prefer a shove.

I think folding is fine. From what I have played so far at this table(less than 2 months), people that raise 10bb+ they have at least JJ+ or AKs. Depending on how tight the player is, it is most likey KK or AA....Like people keep saying to me... at the .02 tables, they cant see past thier cards, if they reraise a raise, they must have something.Kosin Trouble