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#5861 Nashtak

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 06:37 PM

Watching Coaching Kristy is getting sooo boring. I don't have the attention spawn to watch a video of someone 4-tabling while someone randomly comments. Wouldn't it be more conveniant if they titled their videos based on the content of the episode instead of using numbers? And why is it so common to see them 3-bet any ace?! Maybe all the books i read are too old school.
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If I had a nickel for every time I've had this exact same problem I would have zero nickels because I'm not a faggot.

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 06:42 PM

View PostKingJames, on Monday, January 24th, 2011, 9:36 AM, said:

didn't see this earlier, but you, you and I can swim around and donate monies to these ballas
If i am to lose all my money to Fighter, i am expecting insightful wisdom in return
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If I had a nickel for every time I've had this exact same problem I would have zero nickels because I'm not a faggot.

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:08 PM

View PostNashtak, on Tuesday, January 25th, 2011, 12:42 PM, said:

If i am to lose all my money to Fighter, i am expecting insightful wisdom in return
Game select better :club:

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 08:06 AM

6-8 tabling gets the rakeback moneys$22 this week already

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 08:23 AM

my wtf I didn't see that coming hand of the day. Villain's been kinda passive but erratic postflop (as all fish are, erratic) over <100 hands. I've seen him call down w/TP against me before, so I folded. He's been playing like 45/10Flop is a bet probably but it's just tough to get called by anything. Whenever I try to be tricky...failFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (Button) ($40.81)SB ($20.10)BB ($25.35)UTG ($21.45)MP ($36.97)Preflop: Hero is Button with A :5c, A :club:UTG bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, MP calls $2.25Flop: ($7.10) 7 :3h, 7 :qh, 3 :4h (2 players)MP checks, Hero checksTurn: ($7.10) Q :ts (2 players)MP checks, Hero bets $4.20, MP raises to $17.70, Hero folds

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 08:28 AM

stunned by this river playflop and turn felt weird.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (UTG) ($33.16)MP ($25.85)Button ($26.25)SB ($21.15)BB ($44.27)Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 :club:, 8 :tsHero bets $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($1.60) 9 :jh, 4 :qh, 7 :4h (2 players)BB bets $3, Hero calls $3Turn: ($7.60) 6 :5c (2 players)BB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75River: ($13.10) 10 :3h (2 players)BB bets $9.90, Hero raises to $26.66 (All-In), 1 fold

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 08:47 AM

I never fold AA and I never win money, so maybe you're onto something
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:11 AM

My opponent played this in an interesting fashion...Posted ImageMoooooooooooraaawwwr.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.50/$1 - 9 playersButton: $102.95 (Hero)SB: $45.05 BB: $40.00 UTG: $109.00 UTG+1: $291.75 MP: $113.10 MP2: $117.40 HJ: $97.45 CO: $79.65 Preflop: ($1.50) Hero is Button with :D :ts (9 players)5 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, CO calls $7Flop: ($21.50) :club: :5c :D (2 players)CO bets $69.65, and is all in, Hero calls $69.65Turn: ($160.80) :jh (2 players)River: ($160.80) :D (2 players)Hero showed :D :4h, and won ($157.80) with a flush, Ace highCO showed :qh :3h, and lost with Ace King highHero won $157.80(Rake: $3)
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:37 AM

I just did a quick ev calc on my phone (pkrchrnchr app not real stove) and I think this call is really thinWe need 43.3% eq to breakevenI ran it vs a range of AKs (obv he showed up with that), TT-QQ (some fish love to wait for non A or K boards with JJ and QQ however silly that might be) and we're like 45%. If you add more combos of AKo and KK AA (it's possible), then we could def be making a high variance -ev call... thoughts on that range and your in game thought process would be appreciated.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:34 PM

View PostKingJames, on Wednesday, January 26th, 2011, 5:37 AM, said:

I just did a quick ev calc on my phone (pkrchrnchr app not real stove) and I think this call is really thinWe need 43.3% eq to breakevenI ran it vs a range of AKs (obv he showed up with that), TT-QQ (some fish love to wait for non A or K boards with JJ and QQ however silly that might be) and we're like 45%. If you add more combos of AKo and KK AA (it's possible), then we could def be making a high variance -ev call... thoughts on that range and your in game thought process would be appreciated.
I think if you throw a few dominated flush draws in the range that it becomes better.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:38 PM

View Postfighter, on Tuesday, January 25th, 2011, 2:34 PM, said:

I think if you throw a few dominated flush draws in the range that it becomes better.
Sorry I dont understand this. We have the nut flush draw. What dominated flush draws do you mean, in who's range?

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 02:53 PM

View PostKosinTrouble, on Wednesday, January 26th, 2011, 7:38 AM, said:

Sorry I dont understand this. We have the nut flush draw. What dominated flush draws do you mean, in who's range?
KQhh, KJhh, T9hh ect In the other guys range (not Cblue's range) . I think the call is still very loose though, just not as bad when he is drawing to 6 outs with us having 10 redraws occasionally .

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 03:16 PM

I've seen people make that play with AK a fair amount at 50NL rush, I dunno if there is some forum or book out there suggesting it.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 04:29 PM

I was expecting the villain to show up with a set, flush draw or a 5 somehow but nahhh top pairs gonna top pairPosted ImageConverted by a herd of feral cowsHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 9 playersMP2: $52.25 HJ: $68.15 (Hero)CO: $50.05 Button: $59.15 SB: $46.35 BB: $50.00 UTG: $52.60 UTG+1: $50.00 MP: $81.50 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is HJ with :club: :qh (9 players)4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1.00Flop: ($3.25) :5c :D :D (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $2.40, BB calls $2.40Turn: ($8.05) :D (2 players)BB bets $4.85, Hero raises to $17.00, BB raises to $29.15, Hero raises to $64.25, BB calls $16.95River: ($100.25) :D (2 players)BB showed :3h :4h, Hero showed :ts :jh, Hero won $97.25
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 04:34 PM

View Postfighter, on Tuesday, January 25th, 2011, 5:53 PM, said:

KQhh, KJhh, T9hh ect In the other guys range (not Cblue's range) . I think the call is still very loose though, just not as bad when he is drawing to 6 outs with us having 10 redraws occasionally .
I agree I think the call is pretty loose, its close though if the villain shows up with flush draws sometimes. I'd probably fold most of the time and call sometimes if I felt like gambolling,
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 05:46 PM

Posted ImageThis converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.50/$1 - 9 playersMP2: $503.10 HJ: $100.00 CO: $95.35 Button: $84.10 SB: $260.20 BB: $100.00 UTG: $64.95 UTG+1: $254.30 (Hero)MP: $263.75 Preflop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with :jh :club: (9 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, MP folds, MP2 calls $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, 2 foldsFlop: ($10.50) :4h :qh :5c (3 players)Hero bets $7, MP2 calls $7, Button foldsTurn: ($24.50) :3h (2 players)Hero bets $15, MP2 calls $15River: ($54.50) :D (2 players)Hero checks, MP2 checksMP2 showed :D :D, and won ($51.80) with a flush, Ace highHero showed :D :ts, and lost with three of a kind, AcesMP2 won $51.80(Rake: $2.70)wat?Or...Where's the 3h when you need it?
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 05:53 PM

View PostKingJames, on Tuesday, January 25th, 2011, 2:37 PM, said:

I just did a quick ev calc on my phone (pkrchrnchr app not real stove) and I think this call is really thinWe need 43.3% eq to breakevenI ran it vs a range of AKs (obv he showed up with that), TT-QQ (some fish love to wait for non A or K boards with JJ and QQ however silly that might be) and we're like 45%. If you add more combos of AKo and KK AA (it's possible), then we could def be making a high variance -ev call... thoughts on that range and your in game thought process would be appreciated.
I felt it was kind of close at the time and somewhat felt like gamboooling, but let me Stove it...I need 43.2%.Here's the range that I expected... equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 48.989% 48.61% 00.37% 31765 244.50 { 77+, 55, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Jh9h, Th9h, 9h7h, 76s, 65s, 54s }Hand 1: 51.011% 50.64% 00.37% 33086 244.50 { Ah8h }Obviously, he had AKs, which I didn't put in his range, but even if I put that in there, I only drop to 50%.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 06:14 PM

Is ESPN running a Jamie Gold marathon or something?Posted ImageFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.50/$1 - 9 playersSB: $62.80 BB: $76.00 UTG: $160.55 UTG+1: $504.25 (Hero)MP: $116.90 MP2: $118.65 HJ: $68.10 CO: $119.95 Button: $90.15 Preflop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with :4h :club: (9 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, HJ calls $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB foldsFlop: ($10.00) :3h :qh :D (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $7, HJ calls $7, SB foldsTurn: ($24.00) :D (2 players)Hero checks, HJ checksRiver: ($24.00) :D (2 players)Hero bets $17, HJ calls $17Hero showed :5c :ts, and won ($55.10) with two pair, Queens and TensHJ mucked :jh :3cHero won $55.10(Rake: $2.90)
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 07:18 PM

Gunnin' for this fish for almost 2 hours and finally got'emPosted ImageYour converted hand, now with more cowbell.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 4 playersButton: $26.13 SB: $31.13 BB: $39.12 (Hero)UTG: $53.34 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with :ts :D (4 players)UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50Flop: ($1.60) :qh :D :D (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1Turn: ($3.60) :5c (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $8.25, UTG raises to $20, Hero calls $11.75River: ($43.60) :jh (2 players)Hero bets $17.37 and is all-in, UTG calls $17.37Hero showed :4h :D, and won ($77.34) with a full house, Queens full of JacksUTG showed :3h :club:, and lost with a flush, Queen highHero won $77.34(Rake: $1)
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 08:01 PM

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