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#1 KingJames

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:50 PM

DROBERTS and I have decided we want a thread to help organize and motivate us micro grinders. We want a place to talk strat, post graphs, hands, questions, etc. And of course to bitch about beats and variance ;)We encourage all micro/small-stakes guys to get involved as we grind and move up the stakes.We're planning to move up when we have 25 buy-ins for the next limit, and dropping down if you lose 5-10 buy-ins.Please convert hands, it's just way better that way! http://www.feralcowp...m/converter.phpOther than that, let's just grind, get better and move on up!GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:54 PM

Hope this motivates all the micro grinders out there to compete and move up with us (hopefully)... If u have any questions or such that u dont feel like posting here, feel free to send me a message and i will try my best to help ya.Also try and post monthly graphs to show how things are goin.as of Feb 1st i will post my January graph, and btw its not pretty but its a start.gl guys!!!!

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:57 PM

Firstly, Dustin (I'm not gonna write droberts every time I refer to you) and I are currently playing 10nlThen... here's my first spot. Is this a good spot to keep betting? Balugawhale and other DC coaching are always saying at the micros to just value bet until they give you a reason to believe you're beat.Posted Imagev1.10Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG colcali77: $10.03 UTG+1 hammer8484: $9.77 CO danman225: $5.48 Button warthog21: $4.09 SB Hero: $10.00 BB pamanciomec00: $10.85 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with :3h: :5c: (6 players)colcali77 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, pamanciomec00 folds, colcali77 calls $0.30Flop: ($0.90) :club:: :4h: :qh: (2 players)Hero bets $0.65, colcali77 calls $0.65Turn: ($2.20) :ts: (2 players)Hero bets $1.50, colcali77 raises to $4.90, EDIT: this was early in the sess without much info, but dude ended up being 48/38/.88 over 40 handsSo yeah, I folded, but I dunno what he raises here except for a slow-played set or A5... As I look back the low AF def makes this a fold, but I'm curious about firing a 2nd barrel
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:11 PM

Villain is 38/13/2.0 over 52 hands... I obv don't know how to play 99 from oopPosted Imagev1.10Cows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG Hero: $11.04 UTG+1 Da Watcher07: $10.00 CO DoctorFeelgood1: $5.47 Button gr8grns: $8.53 SB tediscus: $12.01 BB xropagnol: $14.27 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with :ts: :5c: (6 players)Hero raises to $0.40, Da Watcher07 folds, DoctorFeelgood1 calls $0.40, gr8grns calls $0.40, 2 foldsFlop: ($1.35) :club:: :4h: :qh: (3 players)Hero bets $0.80, DoctorFeelgood1 folds, gr8grns calls $0.80Turn: ($2.95) :3h: (2 players)Hero checks, gr8grns bets $3.05, Hero??
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:17 PM

Hi! Super excited to be here. And I think this should totally be in Gen Poker for maximum views.First hand is fine James, 2nd I think calling or folding are both fine, I probably call. If you called what would your plan be for different rivers?

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:21 PM

This is an awesome idea. I really hope this gains popularity.James, first hand fold is fine. Second hand I prefer bet/folding the turn, and c/c'ing all blank rivers. There's a ton of draws and 65 type hands that we'll get value from on the turn but not the river.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:22 PM

View Postbabylondonks, on Saturday, January 30th, 2010, 11:17 PM, said:

Hi! Super excited to be here. And I think this should totally be in Gen Poker for maximum views.First hand is fine James, 2nd I think calling or folding are both fine, I probably call. If you called what would your plan be for different rivers?
I'd c/f spades, and some cards that hit straight draws and stuffI can't see a "good river" that I'd c/c,like if an off suit 2 comes and he bets again I still don't think I'm good, but we'd look at the pot odds and such...
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:25 PM

View PostStupidhead, on Saturday, January 30th, 2010, 11:21 PM, said:

This is an awesome idea. I really hope this gains popularity.James, first hand fold is fine. Second hand I prefer bet/folding the turn, and c/c'ing all blank rivers. There's a ton of draws and 65 type hands that we'll get value from on the turn but not the river.
yes, I thought about bet/folding the turn and then the other hand had just happened, lol I know it's silly but I was ehhhh...JK3A timeAlso, does my new member title look like a fish?<-----
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:28 PM

It does indeed

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:00 PM

I'll try to post here while I can to support the other micro grinder, although I've been rocking sng's and limit holdem cash lately, not so much nl cash.
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:09 PM

I support this getting moved to Gen. Poker

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:18 PM

i agree that your member title does look like a fish.. and it very well represents u sir!

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:15 AM

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 509656The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterUTG: $12.73CO: $27.10BTN: $7.91Hero (SB): $11.54BB: $8.45Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q :4h Q :club:UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.40, 1 fold, UTG requests TIME, UTG calls $1.10, 1 foldFlop: ($3.20) 6 :ts 9 :qh 6 :5c (2 players)Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2Turn: ($7.20) 7 :3h (2 players)thoughts and line check please.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:17 AM

gotta love this one... i always run above expectation, LDO!!Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 509657The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterMP: $12.08CO: $10.00BTN: $15.47SB: $8.14Hero (BB): $11.21UTG: $10.20Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 9 :qh J :jh3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20Flop: ($0.65) J :club: 4 :D 9 :ts (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.60, BTN calls $1.20Turn: ($3.85) 3 :D (2 players)Hero bets $3.75, BTN raises to $13.57 all in, Hero calls $5.56 all inRiver: ($22.47) 2 :4h (2 players - 2 are all in)Final Pot: $22.47BTN shows K :5c 4 :3h (a flush, King high)Hero shows 9 :D J :D (two pair, Jacks and Nines)BTN wins $20.98(Rake: $1.49)

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:49 AM

View Postdroberts, on Sunday, January 31st, 2010, 1:15 AM, said:

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 509656The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterUTG: $12.73CO: $27.10BTN: $7.91Hero (SB): $11.54BB: $8.45Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q :4h Q :club:UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.40, 1 fold, UTG requests TIME, UTG calls $1.10, 1 foldFlop: ($3.20) 6 :ts 9 :qh 6 :5c (2 players)Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2Turn: ($7.20) 7 :3h (2 players)thoughts and line check please.
Bet/call-it offSo much of his range is PPs and whiffed overs and you only lose to 77 and 99, but you crush TT JJ etc. If you think he floats overs you can c/r or c/c but I think his range is heavily weight toward 88-JJ and we're crushing that range;)Sizing: $4 would be my first thought.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:55 AM

View Postdroberts, on Sunday, January 31st, 2010, 3:15 AM, said:

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 509656The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterUTG: $12.73CO: $27.10BTN: $7.91Hero (SB): $11.54BB: $8.45Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q :4h Q :club:UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.40, 1 fold, UTG requests TIME, UTG calls $1.10, 1 foldFlop: ($3.20) 6 :ts 9 :qh 6 :5c (2 players)Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2Turn: ($7.20) 7 :3h (2 players)thoughts and line check please.
Shove the turn. Villain is unlikely to have a 6x hand, AA and KK usually 4 bet preflop. Players at 10NL will call with TT, JJ, A9, and maybe 87 depending on how loose they open UTG and call a 3 bet.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:58 AM

View PostKingJames, on Sunday, January 31st, 2010, 3:49 AM, said:

Bet/call-it offSo much of his range is PPs and whiffed overs and you only lose to 77 and 99, but you crush TT JJ etc. If you think he floats overs you can c/r or c/c but I think his range is heavily weight toward 88-JJ and we're crushing that range;)Sizing: $4 would be my first thought.
We have $8 left and the pot is $7. I don't think villain's calling range is going to change no matter how much we bet, so we might as well bet the max.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 08:59 AM

This is probably a pretty noob question, but what kind of bankroll is considered micro limits? Anything under $1000? $500?
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 09:11 AM

I wish I could be a cash-game grinder. But I run so bad in cash games, it's sickening. Over 10,000 hands and I've yet to make Kings profitable...But for the sake of this thread, maybe I'll give it another go. GL!

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:11 AM

View PostShark527, on Sunday, January 31st, 2010, 9:59 AM, said:

This is probably a pretty noob question, but what kind of bankroll is considered micro limits? Anything under $1000? $500?
I think the micros encompass like 25nl and below and small-stakes nl is 50nl to 200nl with mid-stakes starting at 400nl

View Postpotatoman, on Sunday, January 31st, 2010, 10:11 AM, said:

I wish I could be a cash-game grinder. But I run so bad in cash games, it's sickening. Over 10,000 hands and I've yet to make Kings profitable...But for the sake of this thread, maybe I'll give it another go. GL!
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