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#1 Dice_3008

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 05:53 PM

While browsing Craigslist for guitars I came across a real nice Gibson Les Paul Custom. I'm meeting this person tomorrow to play and possibly purchase said guitar. Do any of you know of a way or website I can visit to verify this is indeed a Gibson LP Custom? I know the serial number but haven't had much luck finding a website where I can plug the number in. I'm trying not to get too attached to it, but the asking price for a real Gibson LP Custom of this calibur would be a steal.

By the way I'm bringing a friend along just in case there's any funny business.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 05:58 PM

http://www.guitardaterproject.org/gibson.aspx

Interested to know what you find out...
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (ajs510 @ Thursday, January 28th, 2010, 5:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.guitardaterproject.org/gibson.aspx

Interested to know what you find out...


It doesn't list on this website. I wonder if this website is up to date. The home page says "A new look for 2008". The serial number on the head stock matches the COA shown in the picture. Obviously this could be fabricated but there is another pic showing "Gibson Custom" in the finish which might not be easy to fake.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 06:44 PM

There's also this...

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Support/SerialNumberSearch/

Seems like there's also good information here.

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/gibson-les...paul-101-a.html
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 06:49 PM

Is it an Epiphone or Gibson. Big difference.

Is it a Zakk Wylde Les Paul Custom? Those ran about $3500.

Just asking, without know any info or seeing pics this is all I can think of that might bring the price down.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (SBriand @ Thursday, January 28th, 2010, 9:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it an Epiphone or Gibson. Big difference.

Is it a Zakk Wylde Les Paul Custom? Those ran about $3500.

Just asking, without know any info or seeing pics this is all I can think of that might bring the price down.


He said upfront that it's a Gibson.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 07:13 PM

Here's the listing.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/msg/1574307279.html

His original post has me a little concerned which is why I'm trying to do some home work. I mean who buys a $4200 Les Paul then decides he's more acoustic and is ok with a $1600 loss?

ajs, I'll check out those other links. Thanks for the help.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:06 AM

You can verify it through Gibson with the number on the cert of authenticity in the final picture. Gibson had a lot of trouble with this in their early years and some serial numbers were duplicated, making the verification of an early Gibson Custom very difficult (which is a shame since the early ones are the most sought after and can value in the tens of thousands), but they fixed that problem in more recent years and keep a good data base on all their custom models.

They should be able to help by contacting Gibson directly. 800-4-GIBSON or service@gibson.com. Just make sure the actual serial number and the one on the cert of authenticity match when you go to make the exchange.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:28 AM

If you look at it too, make sure it's never had a broken headstock. It's very common for a Les Paul. When repaired properly, you probably wouldn't even know the difference when playing it but things like that affect the value a lot.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:07 AM

QUOTE (Dice_3008 @ Thursday, January 28th, 2010, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's the listing.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/msg/1574307279.html

His original post has me a little concerned which is why I'm trying to do some home work. I mean who buys a $4200 Les Paul then decides he's more acoustic and is ok with a $1600 loss?

ajs, I'll check out those other links. Thanks for the help.



Well, it looks like a pretty beautiful guitar to me.

Hope it's real, hope you get it, and hope it plays great.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:44 AM

QUOTE (solderz @ Friday, January 29th, 2010, 6:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can verify it through Gibson with the number on the cert of authenticity in the final picture. Gibson had a lot of trouble with this in their early years and some serial numbers were duplicated, making the verification of an early Gibson Custom very difficult (which is a shame since the early ones are the most sought after and can value in the tens of thousands), but they fixed that problem in more recent years and keep a good data base on all their custom models.

They should be able to help by contacting Gibson directly. 800-4-GIBSON or service@gibson.com. Just make sure the actual serial number and the one on the cert of authenticity match when you go to make the exchange.


I called the 800-4-GIBSON number and they said it's a black custom LP with gold hardware. Assuming everything goes well tonight I'll be purchasing this beauty.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:48 AM

QUOTE (ajs510 @ Thursday, January 28th, 2010, 9:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He said upfront that it's a Gibson.


Many times you will see listings for Gibson Les Paul's which are in fact Epiphone Les Pauls. Either the seller hopes someone won't realize that there is a difference or the seller just thinks that since Epiphone is a division of Gibson that they are the same thing when they are not.

I was looking for the listing last night on my own and actually found someone selling and epiphone as a gibson. Said gibson all over the listing but the headstock was an epiphone headstock.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:51 AM

And also, jesus christ that thing is beautiful. One day I will get one, one day.

I would suggest what the above person said about calling Gibson and having them look up the serial.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:13 AM

QUOTE (Dice_3008 @ Friday, January 29th, 2010, 7:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I called the 800-4-GIBSON number and they said it's a black custom LP with gold hardware. Assuming everything goes well tonight I'll be purchasing this beauty.


You are getting a deal and a great guitar. You will love playing it. I have an 89 custom, white with gold pickups, and it is my favorite guitar. Best jazz sound ever.



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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:04 PM

That is one gorgeous instrument, good luck and enjoy!
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:06 PM

Thanks for the help guys. I hope everything works out tonight. I'll report back if I get it and how it sounds.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE (Dice_3008 @ Friday, January 29th, 2010, 3:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the help guys. I hope everything works out tonight. I'll report back if I get it and how it sounds.


Play it before you hand over the cash!!! If he won't let you, that's a giant red flag.
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Posted 20 May 2010 - 10:17 AM

Update for anybody interested. I ended up passing on that guitar. I just didn't get a good vibe from the seller. He cancelled our appointment that night and I never called him back. I did buy a Gibson Les Paul Traditional and I really love it. I was playing a MIM Fender Strat prior to buying the LP. Now the strat feels like a cheap POS. Here is a link:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=519321


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Posted 20 May 2010 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Dice_3008 @ Thursday, May 20th, 2010, 2:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Update for anybody interested. I ended up passing on that guitar. I just didn't get a good vibe from the seller. He cancelled our appointment that night and I never called him back. I did buy a Gibson Les Paul Traditional and I really love it. I was playing a MIM Fender Strat prior to buying the LP. Now the strat feels like a cheap POS. Here is a link:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=519321

Beautiful. I was wondering about this. We talked about guitars a but when you were considering this. I have a great original 1972 Les Paul. A MIM Strat (I have one and a MIM Nashville Tele) is a fine instrument - but no match for a real Les Paul.

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 10:54 AM

QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Thursday, May 20th, 2010, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beautiful. I was wondering about this. We talked about guitars a but when you were considering this. I have a great original 1972 Les Paul. A MIM Strat (I have one and a MIM Nashville Tele) is a fine instrument - but no match for a real Les Paul.


I've been mulling over the idea of upgrading my amp. Currently I play through a 75W Line 6 solid state amp. It has several effects built in as well as 400+ pre programmed songs, which I never use. I'd like to get either a Marshall all tube combo, or all tube Marshall head and half stack. The thing is I don't really need all that fire power. I'm not in a band and can't really open it up without pissing of the gf and driving the dogs crazy. It's really more for the great sound I've heard several people talk about when comparing all tube amps to solid state. That being said is it true that tube amps don't starting sound great unless you have it pretty loud? Any opinion on combo or head/half stack? What models do you recommend?




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