i am simply amazed. online poker must be rigged.

[The Ace of Jades 0]

I was playing at absolute earlier today and somebody said there was breaking news about how Absolute Poker is rigged and put the adress of this site in there, http://www.fairdeal.lostafriend.com/cgi-bi...p.cgi?c=ratings.Just look around, you'll surely see its rigged.

[wannabe 0]

and now you have a virus on your computer that will steal all of your passwords.

[econ_tim 0]

I was playing at absolute earlier today and somebody said there was breaking news about how Absolute Poker is rigged and put the adress of this site in there, http://www.fairdeal.lostafriend.com/cgi-bi...p.cgi?c=ratings.Just look around, you'll surely see its rigged.

Some information on that site is interesting. For instance, you can learn what gaming commisions different sites are regulated by, if any.But the article about Absolute Poker's corruption lacks any substance and verges on the preposterous.

[Dubey 1,035]

strange. My brother was playing absolute today and he said to me: "I swear this site is rigged, i've never seen so many flushes beaten by full houses on the river"I watched for awhile, and it seemed like everytime somebody was all in, the worst hand sucked out on the turn and river. The same thing was happening to me the other day on absolute as well. I was getting sucked out on like crazy, lost a bunch of money.That said, i'd say its purely coincidence, but its always fun to toss out a conspiracy theory now and then 8) btw, this was low limit NL

[Dubey 1,035]

another thing, this would be a sneaky way for a poker site to make money, as obviously, with the rake, more "big pots" means more money for the site, so having good hands being beaten by better hands often would be very profitable. Interesingly, I haven't noticed anything strange in the SnG's that I've played, no out of proportion number of bad beats.ok, listen to me go now

[augmented 0]

i might get flamed for this, but i have played on absolute poker many times, and also on bugsy's club and even PP a bit, and there is without a doubt in my mind a HUGE difference. one time i picked up pocket queens, made a big raise and predicted the outcome of the hand. i said, before the flop, "i will flop top set, with 2 of a suit on the board, and i will push in and get called by a flush draw, which he will hit."this exact thing happened. now obviously, this one example is not enough, but think about it, how many examples does it take? i am saying that there is an astonishing difference between "poker" at AP and poker at bugsys. and i firmly believe that this article is accurate.

[Guest]

I can see the pitch meeting for this in the Absolute Poker corporate office:Executive #1: "Yeah, lets rig the game! The customers will LOVE all the bad beats! It'll keep em coming back!"Executive #2: "Well what if we get caught?"Executive #1: "Thats the beauty of it. We won't! ALL the online poker sites are rigged and the moronic general public has yet to discover this! And even if they do; who will believe that?"Seriously kids, do you REALLY think this could or would happen? :roll: And besides, your covered if you just invest in a GOOD pattern mapperSWNo seriouslySW

[Mr Monkey 0]

i might get flamed for this, but i have played on absolute poker many times, and also on bugsy's club and even PP a bit, and there is without a doubt in my mind a HUGE difference. one time i picked up pocket queens, made a big raise and predicted the outcome of the hand. i said, before the flop, "i will flop top set, with 2 of a suit on the board, and i will push in and get called by a flush draw, which he will hit."this exact thing happened. now obviously, this one example is not enough, but think about it, how many examples does it take? i am saying that there is an astonishing difference between "poker" at AP and poker at bugsys. and i firmly believe that this article is accurate.

why did u push in? why because it was a worse case guess that by fluke came true. it was a coincidence. u believed it was a fluke also or u wouldnt have stayed in the hand if u seriously thought u were going to lose.

[Dubey 1,035]

the more I think about it, now that I read the article about the "shills", the more one hand from yesterday seems very weird. Now keeping in mind, this was low limit, and the skill level is probably very low.I have JJ on the button. blinds .05/.10. UTG raises to .20, someone else raises to .40, I re-raise to 1.20, both call. flop comes J23 rainbow. 1st guys bets .50, 2nd guy calls, i raise to 1.20, UTG folds, second guy calls. Turn comes a 9 and a second spade. he bets 1.00, i go all-in for about $10.00 (I had taken so many bad beats that I wanted to take the pot down now and chase away the flush draw), he calls quickly and turns over A4 offsuit, nothing. turn comes a 5 to give him the straight. I didn't think much of it at the time, but his play was VERY weird, even for a complete beginner to poker, unless he knew the straight was coming.

[Guest]

the more I think about it, now that I read the article about the "shills", the more one hand from yesterday seems very weird. Now keeping in mind, this was low limit, and the skill level is probably very low.I have JJ on the button. blinds .05/.10. UTG raises to .20, someone else raises to .40, I re-raise to 1.20, both call. flop comes J23 rainbow. 1st guys bets .50, 2nd guy calls, i raise to 1.20, UTG folds, second guy calls. Turn comes a 9 and a second spade. he bets 1.00, i go all-in for about $10.00 (I had taken so many bad beats that I wanted to take the pot down now and chase away the flush draw), he calls quickly and turns over A4 offsuit, nothing. turn comes a 5 to give him the straight. I didn't think much of it at the time, but his play was VERY weird, even for a complete beginner to poker, unless he knew the straight was coming.

He had a pattern matter, obviously. seriously. You should look into this :roll:

[Dubey 1,035]

pattern mapper? explain.

[Mr Monkey 0]

the more I think about it, now that I read the article about the "shills", the more one hand from yesterday seems very weird. Now keeping in mind, this was low limit, and the skill level is probably very low.I have JJ on the button. blinds .05/.10. UTG raises to .20, someone else raises to .40, I re-raise to 1.20, both call. flop comes J23 rainbow. 1st guys bets .50, 2nd guy calls, i raise to 1.20, UTG folds, second guy calls. Turn comes a 9 and a second spade. he bets 1.00, i go all-in for about $10.00 (I had taken so many bad beats that I wanted to take the pot down now and chase away the flush draw), he calls quickly and turns over A4 offsuit, nothing. turn comes a 5 to give him the straight. I didn't think much of it at the time, but his play was VERY weird, even for a complete beginner to poker, unless he knew the straight was coming.

at low limit poker most players are horrible. people call with A high and worse. he hit a straight and u lost. it happens all the time at all limits. this will happen lots more to you so get used to it. to the people who think these sites are rigged just dont play online poker. i dont play much online poker but its not because i think they are rigged. i choose not to play because i dont like online poker that much, and i dont want to take a chance that my account will be frozen. if that ever happened it would be a pain in the ass to get my money back cause these sites are not regulated and the countrys these sites are located in makes it nearly impossible to sue or collect. if for any reason people dont trust online poker simply dont play for real money or just play micro limits.

[Guest]

pattern mapper? explain.

Well, I think any of the "successful" players in the forum would tell you you need two things to beat online poker (since its all rigged and what not):1. A good pattern mapper. A pattern mapper tells you what cards will come next; since online poker is rigged and the pattern mapper will pick up the completely NOT random sequence of numbers and what not; telling you what cards will come next2. A good tin foil hat. So "they" can't read your thoughts. Seriously, doesn't it make you a bit uneasy to think that Ultimate Bet is IN YOUR HEAD without one?So there you have it. I think all the "successful" players would tell you that owning these two things are +EV.Cause how can you beat online poker without it? Since its rigged and what not. I mean, duh.SW

[Dubey 1,035]

the more I think about it, now that I read the article about the "shills", the more one hand from yesterday seems very weird. Now keeping in mind, this was low limit, and the skill level is probably very low.I have JJ on the button. blinds .05/.10. UTG raises to .20, someone else raises to .40, I re-raise to 1.20, both call. flop comes J23 rainbow. 1st guys bets .50, 2nd guy calls, i raise to 1.20, UTG folds, second guy calls. Turn comes a 9 and a second spade. he bets 1.00, i go all-in for about $10.00 (I had taken so many bad beats that I wanted to take the pot down now and chase away the flush draw), he calls quickly and turns over A4 offsuit, nothing. turn comes a 5 to give him the straight. I didn't think much of it at the time, but his play was VERY weird, even for a complete beginner to poker, unless he knew the straight was coming.

at low limit poker most players are horrible. people call with A high and worse. he hit a straight and u lost. it happens all the time at all limits. this will happen lots more to you so get used to it. to the people who think these sites are rigged just dont play online poker. i dont play much online poker but its not because i think they are rigged. i choose not to play because i dont like online poker that much, and i dont want to take a chance that my account will be frozen. if that ever happened it would be a pain in the ass to get my money back cause these sites are not regulated and the countrys these sites are located in makes it nearly impossible to sue or collect. if for any reason people dont trust online poker simply dont play for real money or just play micro limits.

hey, I was just speculating, conspiracy theroies are fun. And besides, I know players are bad at low limit tables, but not this bad. and by the way, I have played a LOT of online poker, at various sites, and quite frankly, I've never seen a run of weird beats like this, not just to me, but others at the site. Like I said before, it is more than likely purely a coicidence, but then again I'm not going to blindly believe everything is fair and right. Its always better to be cautious, no?

[Dubey 1,035]

pattern mapper? explain.

Well, I think any of the "successful" players in the forum would tell you you need two things to beat online poker (since its all rigged and what not):1. A good pattern mapper. A pattern mapper tells you what cards will come next; since online poker is rigged and the pattern mapper will pick up the completely NOT random sequence of numbers and what not; telling you what cards will come next2. A good tin foil hat. So "they" can't read your thoughts. Seriously, doesn't it make you a bit uneasy to think that Ultimate Bet is IN YOUR HEAD without one?So there you have it. I think all the "successful" players would tell you that owning these two things are +EV.Cause how can you beat online poker without it? Since its rigged and what not. I mean, duh.SW

oh, a joke, hah. hah. hah.

[Mr Monkey 0]

the more I think about it, now that I read the article about the "shills", the more one hand from yesterday seems very weird. Now keeping in mind, this was low limit, and the skill level is probably very low.I have JJ on the button. blinds .05/.10. UTG raises to .20, someone else raises to .40, I re-raise to 1.20, both call. flop comes J23 rainbow. 1st guys bets .50, 2nd guy calls, i raise to 1.20, UTG folds, second guy calls. Turn comes a 9 and a second spade. he bets 1.00, i go all-in for about $10.00 (I had taken so many bad beats that I wanted to take the pot down now and chase away the flush draw), he calls quickly and turns over A4 offsuit, nothing. turn comes a 5 to give him the straight. I didn't think much of it at the time, but his play was VERY weird, even for a complete beginner to poker, unless he knew the straight was coming.

at low limit poker most players are horrible. people call with A high and worse. he hit a straight and u lost. it happens all the time at all limits. this will happen lots more to you so get used to it. to the people who think these sites are rigged just dont play online poker. i dont play much online poker but its not because i think they are rigged. i choose not to play because i dont like online poker that much, and i dont want to take a chance that my account will be frozen. if that ever happened it would be a pain in the ass to get my money back cause these sites are not regulated and the countrys these sites are located in makes it nearly impossible to sue or collect. if for any reason people dont trust online poker simply dont play for real money or just play micro limits.

hey, I was just speculating, conspiracy theroies are fun. And besides, I know players are bad at low limit tables, but not this bad. and by the way, I have played a LOT of online poker, at various sites, and quite frankly, I've never seen a run of weird beats like this, not just to me, but others at the site. Like I said before, it is more than likely purely a coicidence, but then again I'm not going to blindly believe everything is fair and right. Its always better to be cautious, no?

actually they are that bad. calling an all in with a straight draw is the norm at those levels. seriously people call down the river with K high and worse, people go all in with runner runner draws. what happened to u happens all the time. nothing wrong with being cautious, im cautious also not because i think its rigged but for the reasons i stated in my other post. its good to be cautious but if it bothers u or u reallly think its rigged u should stop playing online poker . if i thought something was rigged i would stop playing, i wouldnt play at that site then complain about it being rigged when i lose to a bad beat