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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:45 AM

View PostRandy Reed, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 11:40 AM, said:

Moving along...Let's look at the Bat Skeleton. Look familiar? Notice the spine (and the tail), ankle and knee joints, shoulder and elbow Look how similar the five wing bones are to our fingers. So did we have a common ancestor with shared genes (well we know we share genes) or did God just keep using his basic design for all mammals only with variances? Posted Image
So your point is that if two different animals share a common design, they must have been both caused by random changes in their dna over millions of years CONCURRENTLY?Or are you now ready to show us the part of the tree where we split off from the branch that led to the bat holding onto this design, while we did also?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:59 AM

View PostBalloon guy, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 11:45 AM, said:

So your point is that if two different animals share a common design, they must have been both caused by random changes in their dna over millions of years CONCURRENTLY? either descended from a common ancestor or shaped by similar environmental pressures

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:05 PM

So similar design lends more credibility to the idea of small evolutionary changes over millions of years better than it lends itself to the notion of a common Designer?Color me perplexed.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:10 PM

If there is a God I can see why he made the cute Koala Bears. Posted Image My question is why he when the Ark finally landed he made all the Marsupials walk from the middle east to a coast somewhere and then swim all the way to Australia? I mean didn't he like them or was he trying to keep the separate from the rest of the mammals?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:15 PM

I'm like, "Hey... Hold on fellows... Let me hold one of you, and feed you a leaf." Koala bears are so cute, why do they have to be so far away from me. We need to ship a few over, so I can hold one, and pat it on its head.--Mitch Hedberg
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:17 PM

citation needed (as if the delivery wasn't clear enough even in text)
there were no special effects, no special effects.

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:17 PM

View PostRandy Reed, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 12:10 PM, said:

If there is a God I can see why he made the cute Koala Bears. Posted Image My question is why he when the Ark finally landed he made all the Marsupials walk from the middle east to a coast somewhere and then swim all the way to Australia? I mean didn't he like them or was he trying to keep the separate from the rest of the mammals?
Funny thing about that ark, they accidentally stumbled onto the perfect formula for all ship building dimensions 5:3:1 Mankind wasn't able to understand or recognize this for a little over 5,900 years after God set down the dimensions.The fact you are allowing for the notion of the ark, to come to your 'point' of how it doesn't make sens, shows the irrational position you are putting yourself in.Once you allow for the ability of God to have an ark built and fill it with all the animals, what He does afterwards is already proven to be possible.Asking why is pointless, the answer will not mean anything because the answer probably wasn't supposed to mean anything.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:35 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:17 PM, said:

Funny thing about that ark, they accidentally stumbled onto the perfect formula for all ship building dimensions 5:3:1 Mankind wasn't able to understand or recognize this for a little over 5,900 years after God set down the dimensions.The fact you are allowing for the notion of the ark, to come to your 'point' of how it doesn't make sens, shows the irrational position you are putting yourself in.Once you allow for the ability of God to have an ark built and fill it with all the animals, what He does afterwards is already proven to be possible.Asking why is pointless, the answer will not mean anything because the answer probably wasn't supposed to mean anything.
You got me. I don't understand. How did he get the marsupials to Australia, the 3 toed sloth to South America and if the animals came from all 4 corners of the earth how long did they have to wait for the slug?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:44 PM

View PostRandy Reed, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 12:35 PM, said:

You got me. I don't understand. How did he get the marsupials to Australia, the 3 toed sloth to South America and if the animals came from all 4 corners of the earth how long did they have to wait for the slug?
He planned it all out in plenty of time and made it all come together at the appointed time.that's one of the perks of being All-Knowing, All-Powerful and Omni-Present.That and He gets to decide the rules.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:00 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:44 PM, said:

He planned it all out in plenty of time and made it all come together at the appointed time.that's one of the perks of being All-Knowing, All-Powerful and Omni-Present.That and He gets to decide the rules.
So can you explain? With his all-knowing powers did he use a Star Trek like machine to beam them there? I'm kinda silly but I thought that just maybe all marsupials evolved there from a common marsupial-gened ancestor? Wouldn't that explain it alot simpler?But if you insist I have to ask. How did he get enough food on the Ark to feed all the dinosaurs for a year? Those TRexs must have ate alot of berries in that time, eh?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:06 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 12:17 PM, said:

Funny thing about that ark, they accidentally stumbled onto the perfect formula for all ship building dimensions 5:3:1 Mankind wasn't able to understand or recognize this for a little over 5,900 years after God set down the dimensions.The fact you are allowing for the notion of the ark, to come to your 'point' of how it doesn't make sens, shows the irrational position you are putting yourself in.Once you allow for the ability of God to have an ark built and fill it with all the animals, what He does afterwards is already proven to be possible.Asking why is pointless, the answer will not mean anything because the answer probably wasn't supposed to mean anything.
Hang on this is a hard one for me to swallow. You actually believe that a ship was built that contained every species of animal which currently lives on earth? All of the beetles of Africa, New World Monkeys, Polar Bears, bats, deep sea plankton, and kangaroos, all in the middle east on a boat? Seriously?

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:07 PM

View PostRandy Reed, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:00 PM, said:

So can you explain? With his all-knowing powers did he use a Star Trek like machine to beam them there? I'm kinda silly but I thought that just maybe all marsupials evolved there from a common marsupial-gened ancestor? Wouldn't that explain it alot simpler?But if you insist I have to ask. How did he get enough food on the Ark to feed all the dinosaurs for a year? Those TRexs must have ate alot of berries in that time, eh?
You know you are losing this argument just by having it.You are asking how could a Being capable of flooding the entire planet for 40 days overcome the nearly impossible task of a breakfast buffet?Next you'll want to prove God can't be real because when He created the universe He didn't write down the locations of the cheat codes for Castle Wolfenstein.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:09 PM

View Postvbnautilus, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:06 PM, said:

Hang on this is a hard one for me to swallow. You actually believe that a ship was built that contained every species of animal which currently lives on earth? All of the beetles of Africa, New World Monkeys, Polar Bears, bats, deep sea plankton, and kangaroos, all in the middle east on a boat? Seriously?
Yes I do.You don't?Why would you doubt it? Randy has already given me the carte blanch acceptance of it's reality. He's just struggling over some of the trivial details.And answer me this Mr. Racist defender....where are all the unicorns?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:14 PM

Why would deep sea anything need to be on the ark?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:22 PM

View PostJoeyJoJo, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:14 PM, said:

Why would deep sea anything need to be on the ark?
why burden yourself with such a logical falacy when the story clearly calls for two of each animal? even the ones that don't reproduce sexually.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:24 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 2:09 PM, said:

Yes I do.You don't?Why would you doubt it? Randy has already given me the carte blanch acceptance of it's reality. He's just struggling over some of the trivial details.And answer me this Mr. Racist defender....where are all the unicorns?
yep, I'm a detail kinda guy. So help me out. This is confirmed Geological Time Scale that would not be disputed by any scientific or religous source that I'm aware of. It is taught to kids in school. And well, we've all seen Jurassic Park. So, can you tell me when God had Noah build the Ark in corellation to the timescale? A red X would be fine.Posted Image

View PostJoeyJoJo, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 2:14 PM, said:

Why would deep sea anything need to be on the ark?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:30 PM

View PostJubilantLankyLad, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:22 PM, said:

why burden yourself with such a logical falacy when the story clearly calls for two of each animal? even the ones that don't reproduce sexually.
I think I just meant that the Bible says "animals that move along the ground," and yes, I realize I might be getting into some kind of trouble by putting that inside quotation marks.But I see what you're saying.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:33 PM

View PostRandy Reed, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:24 PM, said:

yep, I'm a detail kinda guy. So help me out. This is confirmed Geological Time Scale that would not be disputed by any scientific or religous source that I'm aware of. It is taught to kids in school. And well, we've all seen Jurassic Park. So, can you tell me when God had Noah build the Ark in corellation to the timescale? A red X would be fine.Posted Image
You think I'm stupid?I'm not marking my monitor just to show you how wrong you are.But thanks for the laugh...they teach it in schools...to kids...LOLAnd not disputed by any religious source that you're aware of? Really? They all agree to this time line?You're just mad at me because I refuted your original lists forcefully and with conviction.So now you're trying to prove the ark wrong using a chart from an evolutionist perspective as your proof.You think it's a co-incidence that they use the colors from a gay flag to prove evolution? I don't...
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:33 PM

View PostJoeyJoJo, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:14 PM, said:

Why would deep sea anything need to be on the ark?
Yea, I missed that.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:34 PM

View PostJubilantLankyLad, on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010, 1:22 PM, said:

why burden yourself with such a logical falacy when the story clearly calls for two of each animal? even the ones that don't reproduce sexually.
What did you expect?A Carnival Cruise ship?
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