Sng Final 3

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This hand has already been posted in the SNG grinder thread, and the results are there.Full Tilt Poker Game #17221579436: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (129086075), Table 1 - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:42:24 ET - 2009/12/31Seat 2: LaGuiguite (5,760)Seat 7: slinkbug01 (6,555)Seat 9: T-Luva (1,185)LaGuiguite posts the small blind of 120slinkbug01 posts the big blind of 240The button is in seat #9*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to slinkbug01 [J A ]T-Luva foldsLaGuiguite raises to 720slinkbug01 raises to 1,600LaGuiguite raises to 5,760, and is all inI have already picked off a few of his raises with the 1600 reraise.He seems like a decent player, a bit aggressive, but he is from France Do I call and try to win the trny right there, or is it better to wait for a better spot?

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If you've already picked off a few raises this way he may be playing back at you. But with stack sizes so close together, I really don't feel getting it all in there with AJ is best. He may be shoving 10s+ or have you crushed with AQ, AK. My opinion is that I would wait for a better spot/better hand. If it were HU, I'd probably call, but with a short stack in there, I'd wait.

[donk4life 34]

raise folding here is kinda bad IMO, I would have just jammed over the initial raise. I think this is a fairly easy call.I'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't win this hand though.

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raise folding here is kinda bad IMO, I would have just jammed over the initial raise. I think this is a fairly easy call.I'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't win this hand though.

So my question is: if this were a live hand with no stats, what would the villains assigned range be? My thought would be with a stack like his: a big ace, 7s+. what are your thoughts?

[outsider13 0]

raise folding here is kinda bad IMO, I would have just jammed over the initial raise. I think this is a fairly easy call.

^^

[donk4life 34]

So my question is: if this were a live hand with no stats, what would the villains assigned range be? My thought would be with a stack like his: a big ace, 7s+. what are your thoughts?

That's tough, I think you can assume it'd be any pair, A9+, KQ, MAYBE QJ since the villain is from France.

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That's tough, I think you can assume it'd be any pair, A9+, KQ, MAYBE QJ since the villain is from France.

lol love it. So it seems the general consensus is that it should be a 3bet shove pre. No one worries about tangling with the 2nd CL with a tiny shorty still clinging on like an old turd to a dogs ass?

[outsider13 0]

lol love it. So it seems the general consensus is that it should be a 3bet shove pre. No one worries about tangling with the 2nd CL with a tiny shorty still clinging on like an old turd to a dogs ass?

Folding pre is not an option here, so other than raise folding (which also should not be an option), 3bet shoving is by far the best move ainec.

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Folding pre is not an option here, so other than raise folding (which also should not be an option), 3bet shoving is by far the best move ainec.

Ok, forgive my newbitivity: but this play is profitable because most of the time our hand is ahead of the villains which warrants a shove, right? I guess my real question is why the r/f is so bad? Perhaps I'm just too nitty, but seems like to be in a coinflip here is wasteful and can make or break the tournament for us.

[donk4life 34]

Because r/fing here basically turns AJ suited (which is a very strong hand 3 handed) into a bluff, and obviously that's not what we want to do here. Given the action, we're getting the right price to call, and in some cases we'll be a strong favorite in the hand, which makes this a fairly easy call.

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Because r/fing here basically turns AJ suited (which is a very strong hand 3 handed) into a bluff, and obviously that's not what we want to do here. Given the action, we're getting the right price to call, and in some cases we'll be a strong favorite in the hand, which makes this a fairly easy call.

Awesome, thank you. I was thinking along those lines, but just wasn't sure.

[rrumsey 0]

i would just jam it pre, call just commits us anyways, and a raise is really too strong given he jams over us a lot and we are stuck in a marginal spot, if we were stronger we could maybe take this line,... but just jam over his open and block all his options, we get more folding equity, and it makes things a lot easier for us to play it right. And when we do have a big hand in a similar spot later, we probably get called bc of this line we have shown.also, we have a decent hand if he calls, so yah,...