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#81 Jariso13

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 10:03 PM

Do you ever see him burning out and losing interest in poker?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:56 AM

Given that you say Phil isn't much of a math guy, what do you think gives him such a huge edge online?

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 01:19 AM

View PostDanielNegreanu, on Friday, December 25th, 2009, 2:44 PM, said:

One thing you need to know about people with money. When people have a lot of money they always act like they are broke. It's those that brag regularly about how much they are worth that are usually pretty broke. If you hang around Ivey... he's always "broke" lol.
What about sports wagering? does he bet as a "fan" or does he cap the lines as best he can?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 04:10 AM

View PostJariso13, on Friday, December 25th, 2009, 10:03 PM, said:

Do you ever see him burning out and losing interest in poker?
Yes and no. He gets burnt out from time to time, but he always finds a way to motivate himself again.
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 04:12 AM

View PostStupidhead, on Saturday, December 26th, 2009, 12:56 AM, said:

Given that you say Phil isn't much of a math guy, what do you think gives him such a huge edge online?
He's said before that when people first play him he loses to them. Eventually, he figures out the patterns and how they think and then he breaks them down. He does it to all of the online kids who may have better fundamentals, but eventually he just adapts to what they are doing and finds a way to exploit them.
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 04:12 AM

View Postrcooj_7, on Saturday, December 26th, 2009, 1:19 AM, said:

What about sports wagering? does he bet as a "fan" or does he cap the lines as best he can?
A combination of both...
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 04:32 AM

What is his favorite alcoholic beverage?

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 08:11 AM

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Depends on your definition of "broke." Lots of high stakes go cash broke and it actually makes sense. If you have $5 million dollars, it's kind of stupid to have it all in cash, sitting in a box at the Bellagio. Most people invest in something.
Broke as in the situation you talked about. He couldn't pay you back and had to earn the money back grinding it out. After he paid you back, did he ever run into a spot where he had to borrow cash again and grind it out paying it back?Unless I read it wrong, but it seems that the money you loaned him was all the cash he had in the world and had to grind a bankroll back up. Merry Christmas too!!!

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 09:06 AM

View PostDanielNegreanu, on Friday, December 25th, 2009, 3:59 PM, said:

In Foxwoods way back in the day he went broke playing $75-$150 Stud. He came to me, and asked me for a loan. A huge loan for back in the day, and he told me he couldn't pay it back. He wanted me to know that before I loaned it to him. I had faith in his ability and knew he'd be alright, so I probably gave him like half of my bankroll to play with.
Almost half your roll? If you genuinely needed it, present day, would Ivey return that favor?

View Postcolonel Feathers, on Friday, December 25th, 2009, 9:09 PM, said:

not my thread but I dont think anyone will win 20 bracelets unless poker collapses and the average wsop eventg draws 200 people again.
So all the multiple winners the last several years mean nothing? Ivey's won 7 since 2003, Ferguson has won 5 since 2000 and a circuit event or two. Someone will definitely win 20 bracelets.
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 10:32 AM

So you and Phil are in a car, the car goes off a cliff and hurls itself willy nilly into a pond. Maybe a lake, yea definitely a lake.The car begins a slow descent into the murky bottom, but luckily you were both protected during impact by air bags and seat belts.As the water reaches the level of the bottom of the seat, with a 20 degree down angle from front to back, you look over to Phil and say: "I got $200,000 says I can swim out of here and to the surface faster than you, but I want you to lay me 1.1:1 since you were driving.Question: "Why 1.1:1?"Isn't Phil somewhat athletic or is that a racist comment?And did you ever try to convince Phil to be a vegetarian?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 11:57 AM

Assuming Phil is one of the best 7 stud players in the world, has he became an innovator in the game? I mean is he the first player that was really successful while playing very wild and aggressive? Has the way Phil plays gave him the same kind of disrespect at the beginning in the big game or Flynt game that he got when he first started online. I think you have said that online guys that they could beat him because he didn't play the game the way they thought was correct, but eventually he crushes them. Were there a lot of people who saw Phil play in the big game and who were licking their chops to play him for a long time until they realized how good he really was?

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:21 PM

I know you're not answering q's about his new worth, but could you say what you believe his poker bank roll to be?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:43 PM

Do you ever ask him for advice on poker and or does he ever point out to you anything he thinks you may be doing wrong or try to giv you tips here n there ?if you feel like answering this i notice you dodging all the others ..net worth over or under 100 mill ?coming up was ivey a "geek" or a player i hear hes awsome at pac man or was does he still like to game when he has timedid he and ram scamswani ever settle there golf dispute ?is he striaght edge or does he like to party like a rock star ..?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 01:24 PM

I seem to remember Ivey once saying he never has read a book, has never gotten any coaching, etc. (think Patrick said the same thing). Pretty amazing imo. but then again back when you guys came up there really wasn't much poker info. out there. Other than playing a ton in what ways did he (you guys) get better?(anyone think Ivey will read this thread?)



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Posted 26 December 2009 - 02:46 PM

Who do you think would win if Durrr played Ivey over the course of a year at NLH? Would your opinion change if it was live or online?Funny golf story involving Ivey?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 02:54 PM

Anyone remember the movie Accepted, when the kid says "Ask me about my weiner" i think of it everytime i see this thread....Can Ivey get it on the thumb at any casino in Vegas? if so, how much?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:24 PM

View Postfitzinabox, on Saturday, December 26th, 2009, 4:32 AM, said:

What is his favorite alcoholic beverage?
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:25 PM

View PostShark527, on Saturday, December 26th, 2009, 9:06 AM, said:

Almost half your roll? If you genuinely needed it, present day, would Ivey return that favor?So all the multiple winners the last several years mean nothing? Ivey's won 7 since 2003, Ferguson has won 5 since 2000 and a circuit event or two. Someone will definitely win 20 bracelets.
Yes, I believe Ivey would loan me money if I ever needed it. As for the 20 bracelets, I definitely think it will happen.
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:27 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Saturday, December 26th, 2009, 10:32 AM, said:

So you and Phil are in a car, the car goes off a cliff and hurls itself willy nilly into a pond. Maybe a lake, yea definitely a lake.The car begins a slow descent into the murky bottom, but luckily you were both protected during impact by air bags and seat belts.As the water reaches the level of the bottom of the seat, with a 20 degree down angle from front to back, you look over to Phil and say: "I got $200,000 says I can swim out of here and to the surface faster than you, but I want you to lay me 1.1:1 since you were driving.Question: "Why 1.1:1?"Isn't Phil somewhat athletic or is that a racist comment?And did you ever try to convince Phil to be a vegetarian?
Ivey, earlier this year made a one million dollar bet that he could go vegetarian for one year.
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:29 PM

View Postkingcon31, on Saturday, December 26th, 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

Assuming Phil is one of the best 7 stud players in the world, has he became an innovator in the game? I mean is he the first player that was really successful while playing very wild and aggressive? Has the way Phil plays gave him the same kind of disrespect at the beginning in the big game or Flynt game that he got when he first started online. I think you have said that online guys that they could beat him because he didn't play the game the way they thought was correct, but eventually he crushes them. Were there a lot of people who saw Phil play in the big game and who were licking their chops to play him for a long time until they realized how good he really was?
Back then I think a lot of people thought Ivey was a sucker because he played so many hands and was really aggressive on 3rd street. When he had the high card, he raised over 90% of the time which was unheard of. I know why he did it, and still does in certain games, but back then everyone just thought he was a loose fish. That's not the way stud was learned back then.
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