DonkSlayer 1 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Shortstacking a little 25PLO on stars while eating lunch at the office today. This hand came up about 10-12 hands in; villain seems an aggro tard that never folds preflop if it isn't raised to him (he'll at least limp or match a limp), and often raises, but only pots sometimes. Turn is the big decision for me; river seemed an easy check but if villain didn't bet it, should I try for it?Also, comment if move would be different should I have started with $25 in this hand.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopButton ($19.65)SB ($36.60)BB ($4.65)UTG ($63.80)MP ($29)Hero (CO) ($16.05)Preflop: Hero is CO with , , , UTG calls $0.25, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75Flop: ($4.35) , , (4 players)UTG checks, MP bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3.25, 2 folds, MP calls $2.50Turn: ($10.85) (2 players)MP checks, Hero checksRiver: ($10.85) (2 players)MP checks, Hero... Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 This hand's pretty trashy, gapped twice over and has weak flush draws...I don't see the point of a river bet...you've got showdown value, and he's never folding a better hand (even TP) to a bet.Turn, we probably have the best hand as he'd shove two pairs / sets otf, so you could bet/call Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Betting the turn looks good. He can't really have a strong hand after bet-calling 1/6 pot on the flop and checking the turn. Since you've improved your hand and your pair of Jacks figures to be good quite often, I would bet the pot on the turn. If he has an unimproved overpair you will be putting him to a tough decision. And no matter what he has, he will always have outs to beat you, so you need to bet for protection/ value.EDIT: oh yeah, and fold preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 i bet turn, and that would have let us try and steal river when we miss Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 When you check the turn, you gotta check this river.If you bet this turn, you'd be effectively all-in if you potted. if you elected to bet less and got called, I would check the river down for the same basis as the 'check turn' decision above, in that you have some showdown value vs. naked str8/flush draws and he will seemingly call you down as light as 2 pair, esp as your line taken reeks of a missed draw.If you had a full clip for this hand, I probably would have fired a 3/4 PSB at this turn planning to shove any non diamond or ace on the river.EDIT: I have to admit when I think I gave a flawed statement. In the italicized above, I lie, as your line does not reek of a missed draw after you've pot raised the flop and bet the turn (in the hypothetical analysis). I still feel that you check the river back as your jack has some showdown value, but moreover if you do any reasonable non-pot bet on the turn, your river shove will be so light, that two pair could reasonably be expected to make a crying call. This bolsters the basis as to why your turn play must be either pot or check. I'd elect to check because our hand is so-so right now, and I would prefer a pot control line with a marginal hand here. Link to post Share on other sites
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