Gl 7s Full? Options

[trystero]

6max 5plo Hero is dealt [ Q J T A ]
$5.50 behind and villain covers, has been playing nitty

UTG raises to .10
Hero calls 0.10
BTN calls 0.10
blinds fold

Flop [ T T 7 ]
(0.35)

UTG bets 0.15
Hero raises to 0.50
BTN raises to $1.60
UTG folds
Hero REPOTS?

[rrumsey]

Any reads? Could he be overplaying AA or KK here? At least a 7 with a flush draw, and that is pretty loose. ugh! it is just so unlikely that he has the case ten. We only beat a case ten or naked over pair or naked seven here. Repot is out of the question nothing calls our repot or repots back that we beat and without reads i can't say how often villain folds here so i call here and see the turn and keep the pot small. I almost wanna even say fold flop but that seems pretty nitty. Call and re-evaluate turn is my vote. Honestly thinking of what kind of cards we see on turn that we like that improve us, unless we fill out im probably folding turn unimproved just because we don't beat a ton.
If we have reads:
-tight- i fold flop or call and hope to improve, leaning toward folding flop
-loose- i need to know he could be playing simply an over pair here then we are looking to repot and get all in asap
- void of reads- ugh call or fold idk flip a coin or something.

Frankly this spot kind of makes me sick

[dingas]

Why reraise? If you are trying to bluff villain off 77, I don't think this will work. If villain can have AT too it might be better, but he probably doesn't put in the second raise with that hand (anyway there are only two combos, so T7 and 77 are statistically more likely).

Your pot odds are 1.1 : 2.6. The odds of improving your hand on the turn are 9 : 34 or about 20%. When you hit you usually double up, making the implied odds 1.1 : 6.4. I think the best play is to call and try to improve (check fold if you miss).

[rrumsey]

Why reraise? If you are trying to bluff villain off 77, I don't think this will work. If villain can have AT too it might be better, but he probably doesn't put in the second raise with that hand (anyway there are only two combos, so T7 and 77 are statistically more likely).

Your pot odds are 1.1 : 2.6. The odds of improving your hand on the turn are 9 : 34 or about 20%. When you hit you usually double up, making the implied odds 1.1 : 6.4. I think the best play is to call and try to improve (check fold if you miss).

thanks for doing the math i was a little lazy and i am glad my first feeling was right. I think if we improve and villain does did have 77 we are so stacking villain so i guess that makes a peel slightly better

[MaxStPolish]

At 5 6max, villain could easily have Txxx here that is currently outkicked with the A. And if loose enough..could be playing some straight and/or flush combo with a 7 or over pair, etc. I dunno, depends on how loose you think this person is. If you feel sure that even as a LAG, a post flop 3 bet is a sure made boat. Then just call. That said you aren't folding here, and I don't see how you are folding on the turn either, unless it's like the K of hearts or something....and even then i don't think you are necessarily letting go. So might as well force any nitty over pair/FD, etc. situations to max cost before seeing the next street. If you know you aren't going to let a hand go, and there's no baiting value in holding behind another street....does it matter when you get it in??

Dingas's math is assuming that this villain always shows up with T7 or 77. I just don't think that's the case here. I think almost any T is capable of 3 betting here, as well as a nit with overpair/FD/OESD. I dunno. I just don't think I'm check/folding all that often here after calling the 3 bet, especially if the turn doesn't connect with the FD/OESD range.

[rrumsey]

if villain is loose then i don't wanna improve because those over cards could have filled him out to a better boat by the way

[MaxStPolish]

if villain is loose (if villain is behind) then i don't wanna improve because those over cards could have filled him out to a better boat by the way

Obv. That said we don't know his hand. Without KNOWING villain's cards, I'd much rather see an A, or more especially Q or J hit to get me ahead of T7/77. If the guy has the case pocket pair that makes an overboat, well that's the ass 2 mouth end of variance.

Not sure what you are trying to say here by way of a response to me tho?

[SwolyswoND]

Get it in. This is a worse Tx a LOT, and even if you are up against T7 or 77 you have 9 outs twice, so like 40% equity - and thats not even counting the times you're way ahead. Don't let a scare card come off, get it in now.

[dingas]

My response was based on the opponent being nitty. I think reraising with a bet and raise in front of him, a nitty player is showing up with a full house most of the time, at a minimum AT**. Not even that nitty really - just good play.

[MaxStPolish]

My response was based on the opponent being nitty. I think reraising with a bet and raise in front of him, a nitty player is showing up with a full house most of the time, at a minimum AT**. Not even that nitty really - just good play.

Yeah, there is truth in that. I guess your response is pretty straight on based on the "nit" description of villain.

I'm just very hard pressed to call then check/fold on a blank turn, which leads to my if I'm getting it in anyways, shove it flop to at least put a premium on if the villain is on some mixed draws or essentially any hand that you are currently ahead.

[hartman72]

How many 10 of hearts are in the deck?

[RISEorFall]

How many 10 of hearts are in the deck?

do you just show up to point out mistakes and try to make people feel bad or do you actually have something to contribute?