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#1 Zealous Donkey

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:06 AM

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stor...ewCommentAnchor

Authorities in Ohio say Winston was shot and killed Wednesday after he barged into a hotel room with a gun demanding money. There were six people in the room and they’d left the door open to the first-floor room so the adults in the room could stay within earshot of two girls in the room next door.

One of the people in the room, a 70-year-old at-grandmother, reached into her purse on the floor, pulled out a .357-caliber Magnum pistol and shot Winston once in the chest, the newspaper reported.

Winston stumbled into the parking lot, where he was later pronounced dead.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:21 AM

lol...Can a 70 year old woman really absorb the recoil of a .357 Magnum?

That being said, it's likely the perp deserved at least that one round to the chest. Fucking guy was scum.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:30 AM



I always thought the Mexican's got him.


Or Chigurh did before the Mexican's showed up.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:45 AM

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 8:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always thought the Mexican's got him.


Or Chigurh did before the Mexican's showed up.

I just don't get it

Heh.

I really think we need to know what the sheriff did when he showed up.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:12 AM

Here's somebody else in Ohio who was packing heat.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/63880292.html
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:33 AM

QUOTE (Zealous Donkey @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ah, both excellent examples of guns' invaluable contributions to the aiding of natural selection.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:39 AM

QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's somebody else in Ohio who was packing heat.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/63880292.html



I hope she got the dishes done...

But, seriously, it's an ugly situation, perhaps emblematic of the current State of the Union. I mean, when a soccer mom and avowed gun advocate gets her permit revoked, sues the sheriff for $1 mil and then gets shot several times in a murder suicide by her PAROLE OFFICER husband, what does this really say about the American judicial system in general and gun advocacy in particular? What a mess.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:43 AM

QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's somebody else in Ohio who was packing heat.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/63880292.html


Bob, just so i don't have to speculate, why did you post this link. Are you trying to make a point?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ah, both excellent examples of guns' invaluable contributions to the aiding of natural selection.


Damn it, why can't I ever come up with a post like this one. I have been thinking for 20 minutes how best to respond the link FCPbob posted.

And right after i post my impotent inquiry to gain clarification I read this post by Sal. The most perfect post one could make. Short to the point and capturing everything I wanted to convey and with humor to boot.

nh sir
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE (Zealous Donkey @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn it, why can't I ever come up with a post like this one. I have been thinking for 20 minutes how best to respond the link FCPbob posted.

And right after i post my impotent inquiry to gain clarification I read this post by Sal. The most perfect post one could make. Short to the point and capturing everything I wanted to convey and with humor to boot.

nh sir



He had the nuts and shoved the flop...What can ya say?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:22 AM

QUOTE (Zealous Donkey @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bob, just so i don't have to speculate, why did you post this link. Are you trying to make a point?



If he is, I hope it's along the lines of: "in both situations people died and guns made it easier....I dont know if we should be celebrating that."

What was the point of your original link? That all theives deserve to die so thank the lord for guns?

I have made my peace with the fact that Americans irrationally love guns and there are so many of them in this country already that the idea that gun control could ever work is fantasy. That does not change the fact that guns really only have one purpose....to kill people. And while it is kind of amusing to imagine granny blowing a guy away with a .357 (of all things!) I dont think there is much good in a situation where two people had guns and one died.

As Bob showed, there are enough situations already where one person has a gun and multiple people die.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:48 AM

QUOTE (Zealous Donkey @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bob, just so i don't have to speculate, why did you post this link. Are you trying to make a point?



QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 1:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he is, I hope it's along the lines of: "in both situations people died and guns made it easier....I dont know if we should be celebrating that."

What was the point of your original link? That all theives deserve to die so thank the lord for guns?

I have made my peace with the fact that Americans irrationally love guns and there are so many of them in this country already that the idea that gun control could ever work is fantasy. That does not change the fact that guns really only have one purpose....to kill people. And while it is kind of amusing to imagine granny blowing a guy away with a .357 (of all things!) I dont think there is much good in a situation where two people had guns and one died.

As Bob showed, there are enough situations already where one person has a gun and multiple people die.


CaneBrain pretty much hit it on the head.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people but guns make it so much easier.

Don't want to get into a whole gun control debate but do want people to think a little bit.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
CaneBrain pretty much hit it on the head.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people but guns make it so much easier.

Don't want to get into a whole gun control debate but do want people to think a little bit.


I appreciate the prompting to think about guns. Man, do I love me some guns.


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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE (Naked_Cowboy @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 1:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I appreciate the prompting to think about guns. Man, do I love me some guns.




Patrick Bateman would be pleased with yuor grroming...
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:04 AM



i'll take it.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:28 AM

QUOTE (Naked_Cowboy @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 1:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I appreciate the prompting to think about guns. Man, do I love me some guns.


It's all about balance.

I belonged to the Scarborough Rifle Club years ago. I didn't own a gun but I used the club's guns to target shoot at the indoor range. It wasn't a place to go blasting as the only guns allowed were single shot target pistols and rifles.

Our overzealous city council who are the left wing Socialists that Right Wing Americans wrongly accuse many of being passed a bylaw that no gun ranges are allowed in the City and the club has since closed.

Packing a gun on your hip to go to your kid's soccer game = stupid.

Passing a bylaw that means that people can't target shoot single shot 22's to make a statement about how guns are bad = equally stupid.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 11:09 AM

wait, you're not a left wing socialist? smile.gif

I understood your point and agree, I just like that picture a lot.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he is, I hope it's along the lines of: "in both situations people died and guns made it easier....I dont know if we should be celebrating that."

What was the point of your original link? That all theives deserve to die so thank the lord for guns?

I have made my peace with the fact that Americans irrationally love guns and there are so many of them in this country already that the idea that gun control could ever work is fantasy. That does not change the fact that guns really only have one purpose....to kill people. And while it is kind of amusing to imagine granny blowing a guy away with a .357 (of all things!) I dont think there is much good in a situation where two people had guns and one died.

As Bob showed, there are enough situations already where one person has a gun and multiple people die.



Yes, I am happy the guy in the link I posted died. I am glad Granny was packing heat in this situation. (thought I still wonder if everything actually went down as reported).

I wasn't celebrating anything accept justice being served in this one case. To answer your question again, yes, he deserved to die.

I don't own a gun, nor I am against all forms of gun control. I asked the question because I wanted to see if I heard the same ridiculous statements from most liberals on the subject. And on cue a couple have piped up.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:01 PM

When someone gets in your face witha gun and demands money, he is in effect saying, give me your money or you will die.

So yes, he definetly deserved to die himself.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Monday, October 26th, 2009, 1:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What was the point of your original link? That all theives deserve to die so thank the lord for guns?

It was a robber, not a thief. To judge the morality of allowing the woman to arm herself and of her decision to kill the robber, it's important to note that he threatened force.

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