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#1 JoblessBast

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:56 AM

Sue the casino if you lose!

Follow the example of this guy.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:46 AM

lawyers are scum and any idiot who slides over half a million into slot machines deserves to be broke. Stupidity is NOT profitable!!!!


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:25 AM

LOL, this guy is an idiot. But that lady sued McDonalds because the coffee was too hot, so who knows whats going to happen here.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 04:28 AM

what's even worse is this guy will probably win some sort of settlement and they will pass some absurd law after it. Casinos will be forced to post warnings and probably have to track people's play like never before. I thought it was sad when all companies were forced to put "caution HOT" on coffee cups after the woman burnt herself. Honestly, if my coffee ISN'T hot we have a problem. I can't believe that with as strict as US law seems to be on some levels, it's ridiculously lax on so many others. The biggest get rich quick scheme in the US, is to find a way to blame some large corporation for your own stupidity and sue for billions, i'm actually kind of jealous. Lawyers in most countries wouldn't even be able to concieve a case in some of these situations and if they did, courts wouldn't waste time/money on hearing them.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 04:55 AM

this entire case is -EV LOL
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 05:55 AM

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 06:19 AM

"Parise says he has lost opportunities for business contracts because of his gambling losses. He says he went to MotorCity officials and placed himself on a house ban until the end of the year. He has no plans to place himself on a disassociated person's list because he maintains he is not addicted to gambling and has no plan to gamble again. "

What a hack.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:33 AM

QUOTE (MaxStPolish @ Friday, September 25th, 2009, 8:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Parise says he has lost opportunities for business contracts because of his gambling losses. He says he went to MotorCity officials and placed himself on a house ban until the end of the year. He has no plans to place himself on a disassociated person's list because he maintains he is not addicted to gambling and has no plan to gamble again. "

What a hack.

I like that he says he won $5,450 during the time that he lost almost $700,000. Not a very good return.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:45 AM

QUOTE (Jeepster80125 @ Friday, September 25th, 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like that he says he won $5,450 during the time that he lost almost $700,000. Not a very good return.


He gambled in excess and it cost him in real life....that's already the clear sign of an addict.
In order to lose 700k and only have 5k of winnings, you have to be a sick gambler, because I guarantee out of sheet variance you will have many 5k plus sessions if you have 700k to wager over a decade, even if you are only playing the slots. So you would have to win, and then lose it all back in the same session to make the sickening claim that you've only "won" 5k. What a degenerate. Hopefully the fact that he doesn't admit to having a problem can be used against him, as in to say "why would the casino's feel they need to help you if you in fact indicate to the day that you don't have a problem".

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:52 AM

QUOTE (powerpoker @ Friday, September 25th, 2009, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL, this guy is an idiot. But that lady sued McDonalds because the coffee was too hot, so who knows whats going to happen here.


Turns out that that case was about a faulty heater element in the coffee pot that was producing coffee that was dangerously hot. She won because of this.

Her giant settlement was reworked to a much much lower amount, but the news failed to report that part.



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Things are only rights because the government decides they should be rights.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:00 AM



The reason some people win these type of cases is that they can prove simply that casino's manipulate people through many different ways, to gamble; from the lighting to the sounds to the air to the free drinks etc.

Also in the past casinos have been caught taking advantage of people who are on tilt and spewing money, when they are supposed to "recognize a problem and step in to help'. Like the fat guy in the poker show commercials tells us.

Casino's are doing something seedy from many people's perspective, they are feeding drinks down a guy's throat who is making hugely -EV bets and whiping them out all the time.

Most of us are too embarressed to come forth and admit that we were taken. If a guy did this selling stocks, got a guy drunk, encouraged him to buy a stock that was nearly worthless, and wiped the guy's life savings out he would get sued as well.

Just because they have more lights on the front of their building doesn't make them immune to be scumbags.
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Things are only rights because the government decides they should be rights.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Friday, September 25th, 2009, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If a guy did this selling stocks, got a guy drunk, encouraged him to buy a stock that was nearly worthless, and wiped the guy's life savings out he would get sued as well.

Just because they have more lights on the front of their building doesn't make them immune to be scumbags.


It's an interesting take, to say the least.

When you are at the boat you KNOW going in that you have a less than 50% chance of winning. So you better be enjoying the rush enough to offset the edge you are givnig. Plus this guy was a slot fan. He may as well as visited keno on the way out. Casino's advertise the payouts of their slots on billboards for christ's sake....and not one has ever said "101% payout, come check it out!!!".

I'm not trying to mitigate the casino's hand. It's a seedy business. But this guy states, even while filing this lawsuit, that he doesn't have a gambling problem. What is a casino supposed to do if a person says they are fine? Ur a repub BG....should they tell HIM when he's had enough and make him leave, even against his will??

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 10:35 AM

He should consider himself lucky that casinos aren't owned by the same people as back in the 60's and 70's or he'd already be in a hole somewhere.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 11:37 AM

QUOTE (rivergirl @ Friday, September 25th, 2009, 8:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what's even worse is this guy will probably win some sort of settlement and they will pass some absurd law after it. Casinos will be forced to post warnings and probably have to track people's play like never before. I thought it was sad when all companies were forced to put "caution HOT" on coffee cups after the woman burnt herself. Honestly, if my coffee ISN'T hot we have a problem. I can't believe that with as strict as US law seems to be on some levels, it's ridiculously lax on so many others. The biggest get rich quick scheme in the US, is to find a way to blame some large corporation for your own stupidity and sue for billions, i'm actually kind of jealous. Lawyers in most countries wouldn't even be able to concieve a case in some of these situations and if they did, courts wouldn't waste time/money on hearing them.

Case was dismissed:

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090925/ME...y-Casino/?imw=Y

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This morning, Wayne Circuit Court Judge Michael Sapala denied a motion by Parise to order the Detroit casino to repay him $673,854 in gambling losses.

Sapala said the 1961 law cited by Parise's lawyer allows people to collect their gambling losses only in cases of illegal gambling.

"This is a very easy, simple and straightforward decision: It is the public policy of the state -- whether you agree with it or not -- that casino gambling is legal," Sapala told attorney Frank Cusumano Jr. in court Friday.

Attorney Deborah Brower, who represents the casino, is asking the judge to impose sanctions on Cusumano for filing what she calls a "frivolous" case.


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Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:13 AM

I thought the answer to the Question in the OP was "Beer"......good thing I read this...
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 04:54 PM

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Friday, September 25th, 2009, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turns out that that case was about a faulty heater element in the coffee pot that was producing coffee that was dangerously hot. She won because of this.

Her giant settlement was reworked to a much much lower amount, but the news failed to report that part.



I have a friend who owns a dozen McDonlads, he told me about this.

I can't find anything that substatiates your friend's claim on the 'net. Everything I see indicates that the coffee was at that temperature by policy.

Wikipedia article
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During the case, Liebeck's attorneys discovered that McDonald's required franchises to serve coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C).


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Posted 27 September 2009 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (BaseJester @ Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 5:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't find anything that substatiates your friend's claim on the 'net. Everything I see indicates that the coffee was at that temperature by policy.

Wikipedia article


Law.com article


This case is actually pretty bad for McD's. I read it and some articles about it in law school. People think "hot coffee..duh". They don't know that McD's was serving it over 25 degrees hotter than the industry standard, that they knew of over 700 people who had 2nd and 3rd degree burns from it, and kept serving it. Plus, the "huge award" was punitives, 1 day's worth of coffee sales, which was later reduced.

Oh and one other thing....the lady only wanted enough money for her medical bills, which involved skin grafts to her nether regions. McD's refused.
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