SGFULTON83 0 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 OK, we are in the money with ~200 people left. No reads on particular villian since he just moved to table. The table was pretty passive so I was picking up some uncontested blinds so my thinking was that although I may be ahead(not sure though with no reads) I could save my chips and still pick up blinds/antes to build my stack. What's your play? Thoughts pre-flop would be good also.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 75 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton (t5669)SB (t5786)BB (t10647)UTG (t10125)UTG+1 (t7806)MP1 (t72498)MP2 (t51996)Hero (MP3) (t21579)CO (t5395)Hero's M: 11.51Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6, 64 folds, Hero bets t2000, 3 folds, BB calls t1200Flop: (t5075) 3, 10, 5(2 players)BB bets t8572 (All-In), Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Muck. I'd probably call with a pair of tens +, but you're never going to be waaay ahead here and his shove gives you junky odds. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I'm snapping. A lot of the time this is missed overs Link to post Share on other sites
I_fold08 1 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I'm snapping. A lot of the time this is missed overs Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I'm snapping. A lot of the time this is missed oversDon't forget there's only one over-card we need to worry about and there's a flush draw. I call too. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 a shove by villain OOP looks a little weak so my gut wants to call and pray for like an A high over cards combo but we could run into some better pocket pairs. We are about a coinflip to overs and a flush draw which would be more likely over card holding i would assume. Im very on the fence here. I guess it depends on if you need a nice run to help your bankroll or not could help, if you have a lot of buyins at this level i would be inclined to call and try to make the deeper run. If the small cash helps your bankroll a decent amount muck it and just try to survive as long as possible Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Muck. I'd probably call with a pair of tens +, but you're never going to be waaay ahead here and his shove gives you junky odds.Were waaaaaay ahead vs. A3, A5, 56s, 43s, 45s, 44, 22, and missed overs. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 This is a fistpumpslamthekeyboardruboneout call. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 OK, so the conclusion is that I should have snap-called. I ended up folding(I suck) and right after I folded I questioned my decision. I continued on and then with ~50 left this hand came up and was wondering if this was a shove? I think it is, but what about if the limper(MP2) had raised like 3x instead? Is it still a shove? I was new to the table only having been there a few hands.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds 400 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton (t195271)Hero (SB) (t49286)BB (t194975)UTG (t51418)UTG+1 (t36836)MP1 (t27700)MP2 (t80692)CO (t99328)Hero's M: 5.36Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 63 folds, MP2 calls t4000, 2 folds, Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Maple 0 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 OK, so the conclusion is that I should have snap-called. I ended up folding(I suck) and right after I folded I questioned my decision. I continued on and then with ~50 left this hand came up and was wondering if this was a shove? I think it is, but what about if the limper(MP2) had raised like 3x instead? Is it still a shove? I was new to the table only having been there a few hands.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds 400 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton (t195271)Hero (SB) (t49286)BB (t194975)UTG (t51418)UTG+1 (t36836)MP1 (t27700)MP2 (t80692)CO (t99328)Hero's M: 5.36Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 63 folds, MP2 calls t4000, 2 folds, Hero ??? I shove this one all day long. Link to post Share on other sites
Sick Boy 0 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 2nd had is a standard shove. First hand is an all in preflop imo. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 First hand is an all in preflop imo.Hero has over 25 BBs. It is nowhere close to jam or fold time. Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 first hand icallicallicallicall... second hand idk for sure Link to post Share on other sites
Sick Boy 0 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hero has over 25 BBs. It is nowhere close to jam or fold time.Yes it is.But you could make a case for either play, niether is entirely wrong, as is the case with most situations in poker. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Call me close minded if you want. I've actually opened up a little bit to advice from Tehtoe and other elite players that open jamming 15 BB is acceptable, and up to 20ish in bvb.But I will never, ever, ever, start open jamming with 25 BB. It's just not value maximizing poker. Link to post Share on other sites
Fade2241 0 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Yes it is.But you could make a case for either play, niether is entirely wrong, as is the case with most situations in poker.lol Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 boning in 25 bbs w/ 66 would be atrocious here.What tournament is this? I lean towards call b/c i hate getting stop and go'd and I think he has enough overs/air in his range that makes this ok. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Yes it is.But you could make a case for either play, niether is entirely wrong, as is the case with most situations in poker.No, you couldn't. Jamming 25 bbs with 66 is not optimal, AT ALL. If you think it is then your logic is seriously skewed. Link to post Share on other sites
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