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[CaneBrain]

DonkSlayer, on Sunday, September 20th, 2009, 11:54 AM, said:

We'll see. You say that we're nowhere close, but I think it's clear that by far the biggest issue we have is at QB and Offensive coordinator...we have a stud return guy who also caught the game-winning TD, a stud offensive line, THREE stud running backs. We're not clicking very well but if we get it going at all next week, be ready for that big letdown from the 'Canes.

You are going to need a lot more than "get it going at all".I dont see how VT gets to 20.....and I dont see how they win without doing so. If Miami has a letdown, it will be because they blow it on special teams......and Tech is usually pretty good at that. That is my biggest worry.I know Tech has three great running backs....but it is already clear that if you want to move the ball on Miami this year you have to do it through the air. And Tech cant throw. If you have a problem at QB in college football, then you have a very big problem. See: Miami, 2005-2008.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

DonkSlayer, on Sunday, September 20th, 2009, 8:54 AM, said:

We'll see. You say that we're nowhere close, but I think it's clear that by far the biggest issue we have is at QB and Offensive coordinator...we have a stud return guy who also caught the game-winning TD, a stud offensive line, THREE stud running backs. We're not clicking very well but if we get it going at all next week, be ready for that big letdown from the 'Canes.

Oh..well if it's just your quarterback and your offensive coordinator..

[CaneBrain]

I think this sums up my thoughts on Tech/Miami nicely (from cnnsi):Miami at Virginia Tech, Saturday (3:30 p.m. ET): I've given up trying to figure out the Hokies. They had been outgained by Nebraska 343-190 before producing a game-winning 88-yard drive. Either they'll intercept Harris three times, run back a punt and win 19-17, or they'll suffer a fate worse than Georgia Tech.

[CaneBrain]

Good break for Tech with the monsoon. Not looking very good so far.

[BigDMcGee]

well, I guess miami's not ALL the way back yet..

[SuitedAces21]

BigDMcGee, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 3:58 PM, said:

well, I guess miami's not ALL the way back yet..

is this making nebraska look good?i think so.

[CaneBrain]

SuitedAces21, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 4:10 PM, said:

is this making nebraska look good?i think so.

it's certainly making Randy Shannon look bad. It rains a lot in Miami....you think they would be a little more prepared for a wet field. Keep running the ball on 3rd and five Randy.ugh, I got so caught up in Miami having a QB again I forgot that Beamer is good and Shannon is not.

[CaneBrain]

If #80 plays another down, the o-coordinator should be shot. Should be 21-14 and interesting. Unreal. One of those days.

[BigDMcGee]

CaneBrain, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 4:15 PM, said:

it's certainly making Randy Shannon look bad. It rains a lot in Miami....you think they would be a little more prepared for a wet field. Keep running the ball on 3rd and five Randy.ugh, I got so caught up in Miami having a QB again I forgot that Beamer is good and Shannon is not.

why are you blaming randy for running on 3rd and five? he isn't the offensive co-ordinator, he's not making the offensive play calls. Shannon is a great recruiter, and can get you players from Northwestern like Jacory, and believe me that's more valuable to you than a head coach who's a special teams specialist

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BigDMcGee, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 2:54 PM, said:

why are you blaming randy for running on 3rd and five? he isn't the offensive co-ordinator, he's not making the offensive play calls. Shannon is a great recruiter, and can get you players from Northwestern like Jacory, and believe me that's more valuable to you than a head coach who's a special teams specialist

Recruiting talented players doesn't necessarily equate to wins. -Ron Zook

[BigDMcGee]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 4:57 PM, said:

Recruiting talented players doesn't necessarily equate to wins. -Ron Zook

No, but recruiting untalented player equates to losses.

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BigDMcGee, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 2:59 PM, said:

No, but recruiting untalented player equates to losses.

Well that's a problem that neither coach has. I'd much rather have Frank Beamer as my head coach than Randy Shannon. At least right now in his career.

[BigDMcGee]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 5:04 PM, said:

Well that's a problem that neither coach has. I'd much rather have Frank Beamer as my head coach than Randy Shannon. At least right now in his career.

For the coach of Iowa, maybe. But I'd rather have shannon as my coach of miami, because he can ensure that he gets the local blue chip recruits. Miami is a hot bed of football talent, and you need a coach that ensures you get it, and that it doesn't escape to FSU, Florida or points beyond.

[CaneBrain]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 6:04 PM, said:

Well that's a problem that neither coach has. I'd much rather have Frank Beamer as my head coach than Randy Shannon. At least right now in his career.

yeah, I know Shannon can recruit.....I just have not seen it yet as an in-game coach. I am sure I am overreacting to the disappointment of how the Canes played today. Besides, today was a systemic failure where nothing went right and Va Tech played very well (especially Tyrod Taylor which is new). Nice game Hokies. I hope this is Jacory's equivalent of the Washington game for Dorsey.Oh well. At least they changed up the play calling in the 2nd half. If Jimmy Graham could catch, maybe we could have had a game.

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BigDMcGee, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 3:13 PM, said:

For the coach of Iowa, maybe. But I'd rather have shannon as my coach of miami, because he can ensure that he gets the local blue chip recruits. Miami is a hot bed of football talent, and you need a coach that ensures you get it, and that it doesn't escape to FSU, Florida or points beyond.

Seriously. Ron Zook.

[BigDMcGee]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 5:30 PM, said:

Seriously. Ron Zook.

Seriously, Pete Carroll. Carroll is not a great game day coach at all. He was a punchline NFL Coach. But he can recruit, and he can hire competent assistants, and that's what a head coach needs to do. It's nice if you're a Defensive or offensive guru, but certainly not necessary if you hire the right assistants.

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BigDMcGee, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 3:33 PM, said:

Seriously, Pete Carroll. Carroll is not a great game day coach at all. He was a punchline NFL Coach. But he can recruit, and he can hire competent assistants, and that's what a head coach needs to do. It's nice if you're a Defensive or offensive guru, but certainly not necessary if you hire the right assistants.

I was just responding to your point about being able to recruit locally and nationally in the state of Florida. Zook did an outstanding job of recruiting the area.. it doesn't amount to wins. I agree that hiring competent assistants is a bigger part of the battle. If Ron Zook recruited for Kirk Ferentz, they'd compete for the national title.

[BigDMcGee]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 5:38 PM, said:

I was just responding to your point about being able to recruit locally and nationally in the state of Florida. Zook did an outstanding job of recruiting the area.. it doesn't amount to wins. I agree that hiring competent assistants is a bigger part of the battle. If Ron Zook recruited for Kirk Ferentz, they'd compete for the national title.

Yeah, and that is my point. If you're a great recruiter, like Mack Brown, Pete Carroll, getting the top list talent is THE most important thing. You just won't compete with national titles having Middle of the road talent. A great recruiter can hire assistants that can do the nuts and bolts of the coaching. .but it's much harder for a pure "coaches coach" to hire assistants to cover his lack of ability to recruit. It would be nice to have a coach like Urban Myer, who's both an innovative play calling/ creating coach, and a great recruiter.. but coaches like Urban Myer don't come around often.

[CaneBrain]

clutch, clutch win against the Sooners. Jacory Harris finally got it back together. I am still pissed about that bogus roughing the kicker call.

[BigDMcGee]

My point about recruiting... Miami has the most NFL players of any city at 33. THe next closest city is houston at 27. Ft. Lauderdale has more NFL pros than LA does. Florida is an absolute Football hotbed.