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#1 SBriand

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:00 AM

Other sports boards have these and I use them all the time and figured we should have one as well. Post up your drafts, trades,etc for comments and advice.


Took my first yahoo draft this morning, gotta get a couple in before Adams league just to get a feel. Fairly happy with my team. 12 person league, 2 C's, 2 RW's, 2 LW's, 4 D, 2 G, 4 BNCH.

Scoring is standard G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, S%, SO.


1. (4) Zach Parise LW
2. (21) Dion Phaneuf D
3. (28) Eric Staal C
4. (45) Chris Osgood G
5. (52) Shea Weber D
6. (69) David Booth LW
7. (76) Phil Kessel RW
8. (93) Andrei Markov D
9. (100) John Tavares C
10. (117) Chris Mason G
11. (124) Jaroslav Spacek D
12. (141) Ales Hemsky RW
13. (148) Victor Hedman D
14. (165) Ryane Clowe LW
15. (172) Brooks Laich C
16. (189) Mikhail Grabovski C

Ton of good talent left untouched so I should be moving and shaking things as the season nears.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:06 AM

Parise 4th overall seems like an interesting pick... Lemaire is back coaching the Devils, and we know he hates offense.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Parise 4th overall seems like an interesting pick... Lemaire is back coaching the Devils, and we know he hates offense.


That was actually the yahoos pick since I forgot I had the draft and didn't get in until about 4 picks before my 2nd.

First round went like this though...

1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Evgeni Malkin
3. Sidney Crosby
4. Zach Parise
5. Roberto Luongo
6. Ryan Getzlaf
7. Mike Green
8. Jarome Iginla
9. Evgeni Nabokov
10. Corey Perry
11. Vincent Lecavalier
12. Pavel Datsyuk


Being the homer I am I would have taken Pavel at 4.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:11 AM

Ah ok, I was wondering why you didn't take a Wing, heh.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:28 AM

I think you made a huge mistake at Parise at #4
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#6 SBriand

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE (Ottawa_Biatch @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you made a huge mistake at Parise at #4

lol
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:31 AM

I can't believe Tavares lasted that long, people were taking Stamkos last year in the 3rd and 4th rounds.
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#8 SBriand

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE (ajs510 @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't believe Tavares lasted that long, people were taking Stamkos last year in the 3rd and 4th rounds.


I was surprised too, so I took him.

Stakmos went 14th
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE (SBriand @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was surprised too, so I took him.

Stakmos went 14th


That's absurd.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:59 AM

#4 is the worst place to pick.

IMO, there are three players better then everybody else in the league, then there's the rest.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (ajs510 @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's absurd.


I think he took Zherdev as well.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 09:39 AM

QUOTE (Ottawa_Biatch @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
#4 is the worst place to pick.

IMO, there are three players better then everybody else in the league, then there's the rest.


way to go out on a limb with that rather bold assertion. icon_biggrin.gif
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 09:43 AM

Honestly, I think its the worst pick to have.

I have Ovechkin, Crosby, and Malkin in the top 3, then a drop off.

Who would you include in the top 3?
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (Ottawa_Biatch @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 1:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, I think its the worst pick to have.

I have Ovechkin, Crosby, and Malkin in the top 3, then a drop off.

Who would you include in the top 3?


you didnt understand my post.

I think anyone with half a brain who follows fantasy hockey would agree, that the top 3 is by far better than anyone else.
I was saying its not exactly a "IMO" thing. icon_biggrin.gif
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 10:04 AM

QUOTE (MapleLeafpoker @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 9:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you didnt understand my post.

I think anyone with half a brain who follows fantasy hockey would agree, that the top 3 is by far better than anyone else.
I was saying its not exactly a "IMO" thing. icon_biggrin.gif


I will argue this a bit...In a pool like the AHL where goals matter more. Crosby's value shouldnt be anywhere close to Ovechkin's.

As a matter of fact there were 20 guys with more goals.

Guys like Parise, Kovalchuk had better overall numbers. As well a healthy Hossa and Gaborik would be more valuable. IMO..

If you are a plus minus guy Crosby's plus 3 isnt anywhere close to the other top guys.

Is Crosby one of the top 3 players in the league, for sure. Is he a top 3 fantasy guy, not close.
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#16 SBriand

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 10:13 AM

again, I am a homer but I still feel confident that Pavs is a good number 4. After that I can see a drop off.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 10:15 AM

A better question would be, who is the better player Crosby or Ovechkin?
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE (Ottawa_Biatch @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 2:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A better question would be, who is the better player Crosby or Ovechkin?


That is a good question. I might google it to see if anyone has ever broken it down.
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (serge @ Friday, September 4th, 2009, 2:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will argue this a bit...In a pool like the AHL where goals matter more. Crosby's value shouldnt be anywhere close to Ovechkin's.

As a matter of fact there were 20 guys with more goals.

Guys like Parise, Kovalchuk had better overall numbers. As well a healthy Hossa and Gaborik would be more valuable. IMO..

If you are a plus minus guy Crosby's plus 3 isnt anywhere close to the other top guys.

Is Crosby one of the top 3 players in the league, for sure. Is he a top 3 fantasy guy, not close.


your right, but we werent talking about an AHL style pool, ie assissts worth only half a point.
Different pools, different players. It was just the 3 best players in the league to take in a pool comment. I guess I just assumed straight pts.

In Steve's setup for example, a good case can be made for a player like Datsyuk, a very good +/- guy, as a solid 4th.
The reason why Parise goes 4th in that pool is because he had a sick year in +/- in that format. I wouldnt take him 4th, but I get the computerized ranking to some degree.



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Posted 04 September 2009 - 11:03 AM

worth offering parise for pavel steve, see if you can make it happen. its notoriously difficult to make trades in public leagues though i guess
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