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[Balloon guy]

strategy, on Sunday, August 30th, 2009, 2:14 PM, said:

http://www.timesonli...icle6814939.ecepossible deal involving BP.

If it's true, I think the real culrit here is Libya. Once again we see why that having control of oil in the hands of extremist who will hold it hostage is a bad thing.I bet they never tried to hold the oil hostage with the US when George W. Bush was in office.

[ahosang]

Balloon guy, on Sunday, August 30th, 2009, 11:51 PM, said:

If it's true, I think the real culrit here is Libya. Once again we see why that having control of oil in the hands of extremist who will hold it hostage is a bad thing.I bet they never tried to hold the oil hostage with the US when George W. Bush was in office.

The bottom line is that the West simply has to pour all its efforts into alternative energy. Then we can leave the Middle East lands and all their politics behind.I won't pretend to know which source is viable long-term; it may be an ongoing project, it may be new, but it is one of the issues which the West simply has to resolve for the future...

[sKIjaKuDa]

ahosang, on Tuesday, September 1st, 2009, 9:10 AM, said:

The bottom line is that the West simply has to pour all its efforts into alternative energy. Then we can leave the Middle East lands and all their politics behind.I won't pretend to know which source is viable long-term; it may be an ongoing project, it may be new, but it is one of the issues which the West simply has to resolve for the future...

I agree however it reminds of the old boys automotive group where they won't change until they are on the precipice of a financial abyss. As long as there is money to be had they will do anything to have it even if it is to the detriment of others. Where is the Toyoto of oil?

[Pot Odds RAC]

Susan Atkins doesn't have any oil...http://www.cnn.com/2...kins/index.html

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(CNN) -- Former "Manson Family" member Susan Atkins, who stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death more than 40 years ago and now is terminally ill, was denied parole Wednesday, prison officials said. The parole hearing was the 13th for Atkins, 61, who is battling terminal brain cancer. Held at the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California, the hearing stretched to more than nine hours.The panel set another hearing for Atkins in three years, said Michele Kane, spokeswoman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.Atkins was 21 when she and other followers of Charles Manson participated in a two-night rampage that left seven people dead and terrorized the city of Los Angeles in August 1969. She and the others -- Manson, Leslie Van Houten, Patricia Krenwinkel and Charles "Tex" Watson -- were initially sentenced to death in the slayings of five people, including Tate, and two additional deaths the following night.Their sentences were automatically commuted to life in prison when the Supreme Court struck down the nation's death penalty laws in 1972. By her own admission, Atkins, known as Sadie Mae Glutz within the Manson family, held Tate down as she pleaded for mercy, and stabbed the actress 16 times. Tate was eight months pregnant. In a 1993 parole board hearing, Atkins said Tate "asked me to let her baby live. ... I told her I didn't have any mercy on her."After killing Tate, according to historical accounts of the slayings, Atkins scrawled the word "pig" in blood on the door of the home Tate shared with her husband, director Roman Polanski. Polanski was not home, but three of Tate's house guests were also slain by the killers, as was a teenager who was visiting the home's caretaker in his nearby cottage.In an interview scheduled to air Friday on CNN's "Larry King Live," Linda Kasabian, a former Manson follower who was the prosecution's star witness against Manson and Atkins, recounted the Tate slayings. "I started hearing like horrible screaming and I started running toward the house and Sadie came running out and I just looked at her and I said, 'Sadie, please make it stop,'" Kasabian said. "And she said, 'I can't. It's too late.' ... It was unreal. It was so real that it was unreal."On whether she asked Atkins and the others why they were killing, Kasabian said, "It wasn't that kind of a scenario. All that I said was, 'Sadie, make it stop.'"For her safety, Kasabian asked to wear a disguise during the interview, which was conducted last month.As of earlier this year, Atkins was paralyzed over 85 percent of her body and could not sit up in bed or be moved into a wheelchair, according to a Web site maintained by her husband and attorney, James Whitehouse. She has been described as a model prisoner who has accepted responsibility for her role in the slayings and now shuns Manson.But Tate's sister, Debra Tate, told CNN in an e-mail in March that she does not think any Manson family member convicted of murder should ever be set free, saying the slayings were "so vicious, so inhumane, so depraved, that there is no turning back.""The 'Manson Family' murderers are sociopaths, and from that, they can never be rehabilitated," Tate said. "They should all stay right where they are -- in prison -- until they die. There will never be true justice for my sister Sharon and the other victims of the 'Manson Family.' Keeping the murderers in prison is the least we, as a society who values justice, can do."In a manuscript posted on her Web site, Atkins wrote that "this is the past I have to live with, and I have to live with it every day.""Unlike the reader, or the people who seem to think Charles Manson was cool, I can't think about it for an hour or so and then go on with my life. Just like the families and friends of the victims, this is with me every day. I have to wake up every day with this and, no matter what I do for the rest of my life and no matter how much I give back to the community, I will never be able to replace what my crime took away. And that's not 'neat,' and that's not 'cool.'"Atkins' brain cancer was diagnosed in March 2008, Whitehouse wrote on his Web site. On May 15, doctors predicted she would live less than six months. But she passed that deadline, he wrote, and celebrated her 21st wedding anniversary on December 7.

What kind of guy marries a monster like this in Prison?

[Jeepster80125]

ahosang, on Tuesday, September 1st, 2009, 7:10 AM, said:

The bottom line is that the West simply has to pour all its efforts into alternative energy. Then we can leave the Middle East lands and all their politics behind.I won't pretend to know which source is viable long-term; it may be an ongoing project, it may be new, but it is one of the issues which the West simply has to resolve for the future...

If alternative energy was economically feasible, we'd be doing it. Costs are coming down but they're obviously still too high to be considered as a full alternate to fossil fuels.You can't beat the cost of coal, and we'll be in the middle east for years to come.

[85suited]

http://www.dailymail...bie-bomber.htmlBritish officials claim Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton were kept informed at all stages of discussions concerning Megrahi’s return. The officials say the Americans spoke out because they were taken aback by the row over Megrahi’s release, not because they did not know it was about to happen.‘The US was kept fully in touch about everything that was going on with regard to Britain’s discussions with Libya in recent years and about Megrahi,’ said the Whitehall aide. ‘We would never do anything about Lockerbie without discussing it with the US. It is disingenuous of them to act as though Megrahi’s return was out of the blue. 'They knew about our prisoner transfer agreement with Libya and they knew that the Scots were considering Megrahi’s case.’

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I think I read somewhere that he has only been in prison since 2002-3.

[Pot Odds RAC]

This guy is still alive. Guess "three months to live" was a little optimistic.

[Southern Buddhist]

I was hoping this was an epic, but misplaced, Beans story. Imagine my disappointment.

[LongLiveYorke]

Pot Odds RAC, on Tuesday, May 11th, 2010, 5:52 PM, said:

This guy is still alive. Guess "three months to live" was a little optimistic.

So, are you still not drinking Scotch?

[Pot Odds RAC]

LongLiveYorke, on Wednesday, May 12th, 2010, 2:23 AM, said:

So, are you still not drinking Scotch?

I haven't had a Scotch since before my pledge. Truth be known, I sort of forgot about this - really haven't had a "Scotch Opportunity" for a while. I was in London for about a month earlier in the year and drank plenty of local beer.The reason I thought of this was because we had a couple over for drinks prior to going out for dinner yesterday. I knew one of them is a Scotch Drinker and the other Vodka & Tonic (Ugh). I realized I didn't have any decent Vodka, so I went to the store to restock. While there I thought briefly about getting a good bottle of Scotch, perhaps a nice Maccallan. I knew that the only Single Malt that I have in stock is a nearly full bottle of Glenfiddich Special Reserve. I thought it might be nice to have a choice - and then I remembered this story and decided to stick with the Glenfiddich. In addition to the Liquor, I did buy a couple of bottles of decent wine, including a French Bordeaux. France used to be in my "no buy zone".

[LongLiveYorke]

Well, I'm glad that there's somewhat of a statute of limitations on this stuff. I mean, if you're not going to drink Scotch or French Wine, I don't know what the point of living is.

[strategy]

LongLiveYorke, on Wednesday, May 12th, 2010, 10:21 AM, said:

Well, I'm glad that there's somewhat of a statute of limitations on this stuff. I mean, if you're not going to drink Scotch or French Wine, I don't know what the point of living is.

if anyone is suffering from long-term liquor boycotts, it has to be germany or russia, right?

[CaneBrain]

suckers.http://news.blogs.cn...-longer/?hpt=T2this is both sad and priceless.

[Pot Odds RAC]

Still not buying Scotch. Just went thru Duty Free and avoided the temptation....and no more BP for me. Oil spill didn't do it, but this does.

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BP confirmed on Thursday it had lobbied the British government in late 2007 over a Prisoner Transfer Agreement with Libya because it was concerned a slow resolution would impact an offshore drilling deal with Libya.http://news.yahoo.co...m/us_bp_libya_1

[strategy]

<-- called this way back whenedit: august 30!

strategy, on Sunday, August 30th, 2009, 4:14 PM, said:

http://www.timesonli...icle6814939.ecepossible deal involving BP.

[Pot Odds RAC]

A year later and he's still alive and I'm still not buying any Scotch.

[Jeepster80125]

Pot Odds RAC, on Wednesday, August 18th, 2010, 8:44 AM, said:

A year later and he's still alive and I'm still not buying any Scotch.

quitter

[Pot Odds RAC]

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http://www.cnn.com/2...dex.html?hpt=T2The British government urged Libya on Friday not to celebrate the anniversary of the convicted Lockerbie bomber's release, saying it would be "offensive and deeply insensitive to the victims' families."

You know what else is offensive and deeply insensitive to the victims' families (and other observers)? Releasing the murdering monster for an Oil Deal for BP under the guise of Compassion

[Balloon guy]

Pot Odds RAC, on Friday, August 20th, 2010, 6:53 AM, said:

You know what else is offensive and deeply insensitive to the victims' families (and other observers)? Releasing the murdering monster for an Oil Deal for BP under the guise of Compassion

Well they can trust the left in America to stand up for the right to celebrate his release.If it is an opportunity to be for some remote right that harms the families of their victims, the left has a special place in their heart to support it to show how compassionate they are.