Who Killed Jfk?

[timwakefield 69]

So we've all probably heard about the magic bullet, and we've all definitely heard about the grassy knoll. I don't think we've ever had a thread on it though, at least not a good one, and this is an actual 'paranoid conspiracy theory' which is at least plausible. I watched a pretty solid documentary a few months ago which convinced me that the conspiracy theories were just more nonsense. I can't find it right now, but if somebody has a good video that backs the "official" side of things, you should post it.So then I watched this video (while I played poker, it's friggin 3 hours long). It's episodes 7, 8, and 9 of a 9-part series made by a British company, and apparently these 3 are the most relevant or interesting episodes. They were run on the History Channel in the states, but were pulled with a lot of apologizing (and lawsuits) for the 9th episode, which fingers LBJ as the main conspirator. The men who killed KennedyAnyways, here are the main topics they talk about/investigate in these 3 episodes:I think the first thing they get to is, to me, the most interesting part. It's about how the Secret Service not only completely dropped the ball, but how they acted extremely strangely. Firstly, Kennedy's car was first in line. Usually it would be somewhere in the middle, with other cars in front of it and behind. Second and most fascinating is that the two men on Kennedy's car were pulled off of it minutes before he was shot. I think this is Woodrow Wilson. He has four friggin guys on his car.This is the man who was on Kennedy's right rear bumper, aka the man who was Kennedy's human shield, confused as he is ordered off of the car. The film of this is shown early in the documentary I linked. Note how the police motorcycles, usually riding in front of and beside the limo, have also been yanked, and are now riding behind. Then there's more about how they didn't have men on the ground like they normally do, how they didn't sweep the area beforehand like they normally do, and of course that Kennedy's route was changed to include a slow turn (a move which is against secret service regulations) right before he got hit. There's a former agent or somebody who talks about how the Book Depository had open windows, and that normally the area would be secured to the point that that would not be allowed, and that if a window was opened they would have a man in the room in seconds. But on that day they did not even have men on the ground.The next part of the documentary is about Oswald, and much of it is an interview with this pretty odd but very smart woman who was Oswald's lover. She tells an extraordinary story, some of which is true and the rest of which is uncorroborated, at best. I mean it's possible that she's telling the whole truth - the truth is often stranger than anybody could believe - but her story is just too wild to believe without more evidence. She was like a super awesome cancer scientist or something though, so she has some credentials. The last part is the part that got the doc banned in the states, and it totally blames LBJ. I think this was also the part that got all into the grassy knoll theories, and autopsy questions. They get like the friggin doctor who treated Kennedy and tried to revive him, and he says that Kennedy had an entry wound in the front of his neck. And they have another doctor saying about how the fatal shot caused a massive exit wound in the back of his skull, and that the official autopsy pictures were forgeries. They also get like the dude who performed the autopsy or something. They get a lot of people who seem unlikely to be lying. And near the end they drop the most shocking evidence/revelation/theory they found. They get a match on the only unidentified fingerprint from the room in the Book Depository, and that match is Malcolm Wallace, a friend of LBJ's and also a convicted murderer (for whom LBJ, then a Texas Senator, managed to get a 5-year-suspended sentence on that 1st degree murder conviction). One of the best-respected fingerprint experts says that he is positive that it is a match.Anyways, anybody in the mood for some good ol' conspiracy talk?

[speedz99 145]

The secret service agent in the front right of this picture looks like the biggest badass ever.

[timwakefield 69]

The secret service agent in the front right of this picture looks like the biggest badass ever.

I know, right? He's like a sexier, more bad-ass Clark Gable.

[PhilBluff 0]

Its for sure a conspiracy.

[donk4life 34]

It's impossible to find a sexier, more bad-ass version of Clark Gable.

[SAM_Hard8 50]

I did. I was one bad ass two year old!

[dna4ever 2]

Its for sure a conspiracy.

^^^ AINEC!

[Jadaki 1]

LBJ did it? So that's where he learned to get Nike to hide the video tapes...

[hblask 1]

I saw Elvis at the 7-11 the other day.

[SlapStick 0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Fl9ZVJ7B8

[Mercury69 3]

Boom! Headshot!Too soon?

[JoeyJoJo 20]

She was like a super awesome cancer scientist or something though, so she has some credentials.

I would contend that the title "Super Awesome Cancer Scientist" should be reserved for those directly involved in a cure for cancer. Therefore, I reject your entire conspiracy theory.

[ajs510 122]

The Comedian killed him, I saw him do it.

[timwakefield 69]

I would contend that the title "Super Awesome Cancer Scientist" should be reserved for those directly involved in a cure for cancer. Therefore, I reject your entire conspiracy theory.

I'm not sure why you said that. Did you watch the documentary of her? She was directly involved in studying a cure for cancer. So unless you have watched the documentary and are making a joke about the fact that she was also (allegedly) attempting to create a form of weaponized cancer and therefore was not trying to cure it, I am confused by your post.

[timwakefield 69]

So check out this section of the documentary series:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytNronsn3as...BE&index=14You can skip the first minute. After that is audio of a dude (who had means) in a room in Miami with a police informant, discussing how he and his friends were planning to kill JFK with a high-powered rifle fired from the window of an office building. This was on like November 9 or 8. So when Kennedy came to Miami a week before Dallas, his motorcade was cancelled and the secret service was on high alert. And then he goes to Dallas and the secret service are not only careless, but almost unbelievably careless, both in their preparation and then in their actions during the motorcade. Like, they had just gotten an extremely credible threat about an assassination attempt coming from an office building, and yet they then make a slow, unprotected turn in front of an office building which had in no way been secured, and in fact had open windows. This from the secret service, widely considered the most conscientious and cautious security organization ever to exist.

[speedz99 145]

I'm not sure why you said that. Did you watch the documentary of her? She was directly involved in studying a cure for cancer.

He's saying that she can't be that "Super Awesome" if there's no cure yet.

[vbnautilus 49]

This documentary is surely a conspiracy. No way a single guy shot all that on his own.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Oswald did it. It's not hard to shoot the President. It's happened many times before. Was the Reagan thing a conspiracy too?

[timwakefield 69]

He's saying that she can't be that "Super Awesome" if there's no cure yet.

Ahhh. On the other hand, there is kind of a cure for many types of cancer.

[Piddle Duck 0]

He's dead, nothing we do or say will bring him back. Let him rest in peace.

[ajs510 122]

He's dead, nothing we do or say will bring him back. Let him rest in peace.

FTCTS

[timwakefield 69]

Oswald did it. It's not hard to shoot the President. It's happened many times before. Was the Reagan thing a conspiracy too?

SW, right?

He's dead, nothing we do or say will bring him back. Let him rest in peace.

Thanks, I had been under the impression that it was still possible to revive him if only we could solve his murder. Now that I know that is untrue, I'm no longer interested.Really though, I mean I guess I do know where you're coming from - I'm almost offended by the 9/11 conspiracy nuts (only almost, because before I can be offended I remember that they are retarded). But the fact is that some of the JFK conspiracy theories really do hold at least a tiny bit of water, so I don't see it as denigrating his memory to talk about it.EDIT: I just want to point out that three people so far have voted that they themselves are jerks.

[JoeyJoJo 20]

He's saying that she can't be that "Super Awesome" if there's no cure yet.

Yes, this is what I was saying.

Ahhh. On the other hand, there is kind of a cure for many types of cancer.

Well? Out with it man! Did she or did she not directly contribute to these kind-of-cures for many types of cancer?

Let him rest in peace.

What if death really was just like sleep? And some people death-slept soundly and some death-slept restlessly and some death-snored and some death-walked (zombies!)? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense either.

EDIT: I just want to point out that three people so far have voted that they themselves are jerks.

Once again, I must reject your entire conspiracy theory because they are not voting themselves as jerks, but merely voting that they don't care with the full understanding that you think that makes them jerks, which I also reject.

[timwakefield 69]

Once again, I must reject your entire conspiracy theory because they are not voting themselves as jerks, but merely voting that they don't care with the full understanding that you think that makes them jerks, which I also reject.

I swear to Christ I will assassinate you.Jerk.P.S. "...with the full understanding that you think that makes them jerks, which I also reject," implies that you reject the notion that I think it makes them jerks. That makes little sense. What makes more sense is that you meant to say that you reject the notion that choosing that poll option defines you as a jerk, but that's not quite what you said. NICE GRAMMAR, JERK.

[JoeyJoJo 20]

I swear to Christ I will assassinate you.P.S. "...with the full understanding that you think that makes them jerks, which I also reject," implies that you reject the notion that I think it makes them jerks. That makes little sense. What makes more sense is that you meant to say that you reject the notion that choosing that poll option defines you as a jerk, but that's not quite what you said. NICE GRAMMAR, JERK.P.P.S. The Jerk Store called; they're running out of you!

I accept that.P.S. I do reject the notion that you really think it makes them jerks (it being opening the thread to read even if you don't care who killed JFK). You don't really think that. P.P.S. Who cares? You're their best seller!