Ya, He Probably Has Aces, But...

[Frez 0]

Geez, is there a converter anywhere that works for FT PLO?Seat 1: UTG ($18.70)Seat 2: MP ($94.05)Seat 3: CO ($48.60)Seat 4: Button ($50)Seat 5: SB ($56.75)Seat 6: FREZ ($47.50)SB posts the small blind of $0.25FREZ posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to FREZ []UTG calls $0.50MP raises to $2.25CO calls $2.25Button foldsSB calls $2FREZ has 15 seconds left to actFREZ calls $1.75UTG calls $1.75*** FLOP *** []SB checksFREZ bets $11.25UTG foldsMP raises to $28.10CO has 15 seconds left to actCO foldsSB foldsFREZ raises to $45.25, and is all inMP calls $17.15With the overcalls I think PF is an easy call.How am I doing on the flop?

[Crazy Cypriot 0]

hmmm, at first i thought yeah, why not just pot it....but i dont think we re really getting a good price , especially if he has any sort of draw as well . maybe fold is best?

[rrumsey 0]

We have outs and are getting a great price to 2 seperate nuts, we have most likely 8 straight forward outs, could get more if K rolls of turn, I don;t like the action we have seen we could be up against a set our an over pair. Most likely we are behind, but a call commits us to any turn so we have to shove. Preflop we had decent odds but i wouldn't fault a fold, would have been better preflop if we were double suited but no matter we are simply priced in and probably behind, flat commits us, raise and we have outs, now a fold leaves us with about $34 void of reads i say best play is to fold, annnnyyything he is repping we are behind ( we don't even have a pair) but if he would play a pair and a draw this hard it is abiut right to shove. Straight shove is second best, but i think this is a high variance race we are in with so many trips and 2 pairs showing up. Im never flatting here that would be the worst play. What is your image and his history, is he a donk NLHE player that would shove AA or KK bc that would help define his ramge better? Most likely fold flop.

[bdc30 0]

I don't get why you're leading at this flop? If you're willing to play for stacks (I'm not saying you should be..but if you are feeling the gambool) I'd muuuuuch rather see you go for the fancy crai play.This is a super-turbo muck preflop fwiw. Position is the key factor here. You have three clubs and have to flop pretty much letter perfect to make a nut hand. When/if you do flop a nut hand, you'll be vulnerable to redraws most of the time too. Any flush you make is garbage especially with that many players in the pot. Not to mention, you'll be out of position the whole way and really have little control over the size of the pot.If you really wanted to play the hand (again not advocating it) I'd have preferred to see you 3bet preflop to hopefully isolate the raiser and lock in some dead money in the pot.....Bottom line, I don't like any part of it.

[pokerinc 0]

I agree w/ not liking how it's played, but if you're asking about shoving once you pot lead the flop I think the answer's a big yes. I'm not pulling that move w/out backing it up with my stack here.

[BaseJester 1]

Fold preflop.

[rrumsey 0]

IDK $5 dollars in the pot, $1.75 to call giving us almost 3 to 1 odds on a call and the almost certian call behind us if we in fact call, UTG is getting a little over 4 to 1 on a call, I can see a call not being a horrible move but we need to play it very carefully

[DonkSlayer 1]

Fold preflop.The person who said that RRpf to isolate obv does not play much 50max plo, because I think you get about 20% folds from any hands that already called the first hand, at this level. I say if Frez wants to get it all in, leading is better because he risks a c/r being flatted and then being in a tough spot if turn pairs the board or sends out something ghey like Ad.

[SwolyswoND 1]

Fold pre, I need a MUCH stronger hand than this to play a large pot OOP.On the flop, lead isn't terrible but it better be a b/f. You have nothing more than an OESD, which is not a hand I'm playing for stacks with in PLO.