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[droberts]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG+1 ($2.93)
MP1 ($10.21)
Hero (MP2) ($10.27)
MP3 ($3.34)
CO ($4.43)
Button ($5.22)
SB ($5.13)
BB ($10.77)
UTG ($5.97)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
UTG bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.27) Q, 10, 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.85, UTG calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.97) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40

River: ($5.77) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks
Hero ????

Total pot: $5.77


this is only my second hand at table and i was wondering how my bet sizing is and as played whats a good value bet?

also no relevance but i went on a mini-heater to start table, was sick. first hand, J5, then KK, KK, AA, and JJ were my first 5 hands.

[Solar]

I bet about 1$ on the river.

I also bet more on the flop. Raise flop to $1.5, and then half pot on the turn will be around $2.2 which is fine.

You could also raise a little more pf, but .5 is ok.

[Temporary Nuts]

I bet about 1$ on the river.

I also bet more on the flop and turn.

Too little imo. I think we should go for about half the pot. This will be a completed flush on the turn that is frustrated often enough. Remember if we are betting $3 we only need to be called 1/3 as often as with $1 to have the same profitability... and I think most hands that will call a $1 bet are calling a $3 bet.

Obviously we are bet/folding.

Raising more on the flop is definite, but I think the half he went for on the turn is fine.

[droberts]

Too little imo. I think we should go for about half the pot. This will be a completed flush on the turn that is frustrated often enough. Remember if we are betting $3 we only need to be called 1/3 as often as with $1 to have the same profitability... and I think most hands that will call a $1 bet are calling a $3 bet.

Obviously we are bet/folding.

Raising more on the flop is definite, but I think the half he went for on the turn is fine.

the queston now is if we are bet/folding, how much do we bet on river. Thats why i posted this hand. If u add it up, villain started with $6 and by the river he only has slightly over $3 left and if we value bet $3, i dont see us folding for a quarter more.

[Temporary Nuts]

the queston now is if we are bet/folding, how much do we bet on river. Thats why i posted this hand. If u add it up, villain started with $6 and by the river he only has slightly over $3 left and if we value bet $3, i dont see us folding for a quarter more.

I really need to learn to read stack sizes better. Yeah just put him in.

[tskillz187]

I think you bet a little too small on every street. Especially the flop, that board is so coordinated and he donks into you. If he donked with air, he's folding to any size raise, if he donked with any kind of hand he has at least a pair + gutshot, raise it big he'll call with worse. That's like the most coordinated board ever, don't dictate your bet/raise sizing based on his bet, do it based upon the size of the pot, how coordinated the board is, and the strength of villains range.

In this example pot is now $1.52, board is almost as coordinated as boards get, and villain's range is a question mark. But his value range are all strong hands and we don't care about his bluffing range. Make it like at least $1.25 but I'm leaning towards full out pot $1.5.

[KingJames]

I like the idea of raising more on the flop

As played, put him in...

[rrumsey]

raise closer to pot preflop to milk more equity of small ball bets on later streets and do as everyone else pounced on and bet a little bigger on every street villain would probably have been in on turn or small meangless shove on river either way in the micor stakes we are going with this. Not a horrible line but just stick it in on river you have the second nuts!

[SwolyswoND]

Not a horrible line but just stick it in on river you have the second nuts!

No, he doesn't

[droberts]

not only do i not have the second nuts. I dont even have the second nut flush.

[SwolyswoND]

not only do i not have the second nuts. I dont even have the second nut flush.

Foreshadowing?

[droberts]

Foreshadowing?

most def... haha

dont know how he came up with 2nd nuts.. i keep trying and getting the 10th nuts... lol

[NoBBiR]

Raise more OTF, bet something on the river as played. This is never a check. Shoving is probably fine. You'll get called by a lot of worse hearts now that the dude has half of his stack in.

[rrumsey]

oops yah your right i miss read it my bad lol i think i meant to say river when he did have the second nuts wow misread or miss type on my part

[mtdesmoines]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG+1 ($2.93)
MP1 ($10.21)
Hero (MP2) ($10.27)
MP3 ($3.34)
CO ($4.43)
Button ($5.22)
SB ($5.13)
BB ($10.77)
UTG ($5.97)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
UTG bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.27) Q, 10, 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.85, UTG calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.97) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40

River: ($5.77) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks
Hero ????

Total pot: $5.77


this is only my second hand at table and i was wondering how my bet sizing is and as played whats a good value bet?

also no relevance but i went on a mini-heater to start table, was sick. first hand, J5, then KK, KK, AA, and JJ were my first 5 hands.

Meh. I don't think villain is checking an A high flush there, so we need to bet-call. I don't know. Maybe half his stack. Maybe just put him in if he has less than 1/2 pot.