MNmiracleCJS 0 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 recent live limit hand background: table is very juicy we currently have 2 straddle rocks working on a 7 handed table players are for the most part competent due to the stakes but most are very much action playersI'm dealt AhKh in the CO there is a straddle and it folds around to meI three bet folds to BB who calls straddle 4 bets both me and the BB callflop comesQs 10h 4cBB checks UTG bets HERO: calls BB: callsturn 8h BB checks UTG bets HERO: raises BB folds UTG calls......Opinions on the line anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 its ok you still have good outs to anything and could have AK still as outs not a horrible turn bet because we are live here but im thinking we are only safe if we hit the flush, if A or K roll off we flat river we flat his bet don't get into a raising war on the river with just a pair we could be up against a huge hand. This is the great thing about limit, you get odds to draw a decent amount. Oh and PS, we get 4-bet on turn we call and pray for the flush, we can't fold to that bet we have good odds. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Is it a 4-bet cap? If not, I'd 5-bet it preflop.I think I just call the turn here. Straddle likes his hand, and while he could be bluffing, we beat a bluff.I call the turn, and given the size of the pot, maybe consider calling a river bet UI, but that would need to be read dependent.I don't think we fold him off of anything we beat on the turn. I think lower PPs probably give up and check the turn, JJ might peel because of the gutshot as well. We have a lot of outs, but raising is only good if we get him to fold a better hand often enough. If he's bluffing, like I said, we beat every bluff, so there's no real reason to get him to fold, especially since our fd+gs kill tons of his outs in that case, plus we could have his A or K dominated. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 semi-bluffs are only profitable if theres a chance your opponent immediately folds (hence the bluff part)since there is almost 0% chance he folds here, raising is bad. im the middle of rereading some sklansky since i havent really had the internet for a couple months, and just finished reading this straight from ToP Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 i dont like your turn raise. let the bb stay in, its unlikely that you are winning this pot without improving. and if there is a 5 bet cap then definitely kick it up to 5 preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 semi-bluffs are only profitable if theres a chance your opponent immediately folds (hence the bluff part)since there is almost 0% chance he folds here, raising is bad. im the middle of rereading some sklansky since i havent really had the internet for a couple months, and just finished reading this straight from ToPa semibluff can also be profitable if you have a chance at having the best hand. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 a semibluff can also be profitable if you have a chance at having the best hand.what hands are we beating?AJ maybe? Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 what hands are we beating?AJ maybe?i didnt mean to imply that could be the case here. Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 What Zach said Link to post Share on other sites
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