 Stud8: Can I Value Bet Thin On 6th? |
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 Sunday, September 13th, 2009, 11:41 PM
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id bet 4th street in hand 2. no one is playing like they have a high made yet and we have the only low draw even if they do.
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Thursday, September 17th, 2009, 8:24 AM
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QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Monday, September 14th, 2009, 2:41 AM)  id bet 4th street in hand 2. no one is playing like they have a high made yet and we have the only low draw even if they do. Hero did, did he not? |
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Friday, September 18th, 2009, 7:36 PM
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Poker Forum Veteran Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: March 21st, 2005 From: I'm bad, I'm nationwide Member No.: 4,467 Favorite Poker Game: HU freezeout 4 souls |
yeah, nvm. musta been late, really thought he didnt.
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Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009, 2:51 PM
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An interesting spot live:
Obv can't remember all dead cards, and some suits are prob wrong (I want a photographic memory for xmas) Stud8- 6 handed .5/1 (.1ante/.25bring-in) Villain 1: (X X) Ac Ad Villain 2: (X X) Qd Qh Hero: (2h 3c) 4d 8c 3rd: Hero brings-in, 1 fold, Villain 1 completes, Villain 2 calls, couple folds, Hero calls (4.1sb) 4th: Villain 1 bets, Villain 2 raises, Hero... It should be noted that Villain 1 tried to double-bet, but it's stud8. He also had a dollar chip in his hand as he was going to 3bet... So I'm looking at a capped 4th street I'm assuming that I'm against something like 54 AA and TQ QQ or JJ QQ (I don't think villain two would raise with just JT QQ) Villain 1 could certainly have 4A AA... Any and all thoughts -------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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Friday, September 25th, 2009, 9:14 PM
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Poker Forum Groupie Group: Members Posts: 654 Joined: June 23rd, 2008 From: Indiana Member No.: 33,452 Favorite Poker Game: Stud Hi/Lo, Limit Hold Em |
I really can't see anyone, good or bad at the game, b/3b the open AA here with two babies underneath - I think he has to have trips. A non-expert at S/8 won't b/3b because they are way behind Villain 2's repped hand, and have to catch 2 for any low, they will almost certainly peel and hope to improve in one direction or the other on 5th.
An expert player won't b/3b (w)(w)AA either, because he will want to keep you in the hand with an 8 draw. Even though he has two to make any low, it's almost certain that it would end up being better than your 8 low. Since he's drawing at a two outer to scoop, he's got no reason to drive you out. Therefore I put V1 on trip aces and nothing else, really. I think you are certainly good to peel one here. if it does get capped on 4th, thats not the end of the world because even if you brick 5th V2 would have to be either certifiably insane (or have quads) to get in another raising war on 5th. And also, V2 is never raising anything besides trip Q there. You can safely throw out any ideas of JJQQ or TJQQ. |
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Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 8:08 PM
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Glue Factory Superintendent Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: April 24th, 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 5,283 Favorite Poker Game: Cash Games; HORSE NLHE & NL27 |
TYTY, I stuck around for a capped 4th, 2 bets on 5th and made my low on 6th and took 1/2 the pot as neither of them improved and it was AAA vs QQQ
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Sunday, September 27th, 2009, 7:45 AM
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2 bets on 5th? Did QQ raise AGAIN? or did the AA get in a c/r?
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Sunday, September 27th, 2009, 6:43 PM
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Glue Factory Superintendent Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: April 24th, 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 5,283 Favorite Poker Game: Cash Games; HORSE NLHE & NL27 |
QUOTE (SwolyswoND @ Sunday, September 27th, 2009, 8:45 AM) 2 bets on 5th? Did QQ raise AGAIN? or did the AA get in a c/r? Obv can't remember all dead cards, and some suits are prob wrong (I want a photographic memory for xmas) Stud8- 6 handed .5/1 (.1ante/.25bring-in) Villain 1: (X X) Ac Ad 9x Tx (X) Villain 2: (X X) Qd Qh 4x Jx (x) Hero: (2h 3c) 4d 8c 2x 7x (Kx) 3rd: Hero brings-in, 1 fold, Villain 1 completes, Villain 2 calls, couple folds, Hero calls (4.1sb) 4th: Villain 1 bets, Villain 2 raises, Hero calls, Villain 1 raises, Villain 2 caps, Hero calls, Villain 1 calls (16.1sb) 5th: Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 bets, Hero calls, Villain 1 raises, Villain 2 calls, Hero calls (14bb) 6th: Vilain 1 bets, Villain 2 calls, Hero raises, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls (20bb) 7th: Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 checks, Hero bets, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls (23bb) -------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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Sunday, September 27th, 2009, 8:07 PM
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Poker Forum Groupie Group: Members Posts: 654 Joined: June 23rd, 2008 From: Indiana Member No.: 33,452 Favorite Poker Game: Stud Hi/Lo, Limit Hold Em |
Sheesh, I dunno if I'm ballsy enough to go for the c/r on 5th as Villain 1. With you showing three to a low I think as Villain 1 with open AA I'd just lead, the QQ calls and then I'd expect/hope the low to pump it up and then I could give the gas pipe to Villain 2 in a raising sandwich, as it's very obvious that he has QQQ.
BTW, mark Villain 2 down as a complete moron and stalk him anytime he plays S/8. He shouldn't be calling on 3rd after the Ace completes, let alone raising 4th nor betting 5th. |
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Sunday, September 27th, 2009, 9:24 PM
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Glue Factory Superintendent Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: April 24th, 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 5,283 Favorite Poker Game: Cash Games; HORSE NLHE & NL27 |
Yes, very true about villain 2
And luckily, he is a regular at my home game. .10/.25 NL & PL games and .50/1 limit games... lots of fun. Pretty decent NL players, but their stud/8/razz abilities are terrible. <3 that game... TY your responses... -------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 5:22 PM
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QUOTE (KingJames @ Monday, September 28th, 2009, 1:24 AM) Yes, very true about villain 2 And luckily, he is a regular at my home game. .10/.25 NL & PL games and .50/1 limit games... lots of fun. Pretty decent NL players, but their stud/8/razz abilities are terrible. <3 that game... TY your responses... omfg how the hell do you convince people at your home game to play anything else besides NLHE? I wanna try to get them to play stud8 cuz I think i'd rock them to death. |
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Friday, October 23rd, 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (gfdsa146 @ Thursday, October 22nd, 2009, 6:22 PM) omfg how the hell do you convince people at your home game to play anything else besides NLHE? I wanna try to get them to play stud8 cuz I think i'd rock them to death. Yes, it's fantastic! The game is at my house and I tell everyone that it's dealers choice. .1/.25 NL and PL and .5/1 limit games... I've got them into playing PLO8 Stud8 Razz and NL27 single draw... and as bad as they are at NLHE, they are way worse at mixed games... It ends up being about 70% NLHE and 30% other games, which is nice. Brag: Scopped a 30BB pot in stud8 Tuesday night with rolled-up 5s... just to get an idea of how lol-bad people are at stud8, a friend capped 3rd with split 9s... I beat 9s up, aces up and a busted low-draw... scoooooooooop -------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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Tuesday, October 27th, 2009, 1:22 PM
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Glue Factory Superintendent Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: April 24th, 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 5,283 Favorite Poker Game: Cash Games; HORSE NLHE & NL27 |
-------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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Thursday, November 5th, 2009, 2:11 PM
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Glue Factory Superintendent Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: April 24th, 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 5,283 Favorite Poker Game: Cash Games; HORSE NLHE & NL27 |
HU 7game: Stud8 $.50/$1 with .1 ante
Hero: (6  7 ) 5  9 3 Q Laggy Villain: ( Xx Xx ) A  T 5 K 3rd: Hero brings-in, Villain completes, Hero calls (2.4sb) 4th: Villain bets, Hero calls (3.4sb) 5th: Villain bets, Hero call (3.7BB) 6th: Villain bets, Hero???? Villain is laggy in that he always bets when he has the lead. I've made some thin call downs, but I doubt he is adjusting. Always completes when I bring-in so I think his hole-card range is pretty much ATC Meh, I've been putting down some thoughts and I guess it's a pretty zzzzz standard call... -------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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Wednesday, November 11th, 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (KingJames @ Thursday, November 5th, 2009, 5:11 PM) HU 7game: Stud8 $.50/$1 with .1 ante Hero: (6 7 ) 5 9 3 Q Laggy Villain: ( Xx Xx ) A T 5 K 3rd: Hero brings-in, Villain completes, Hero calls (2.4sb) 4th: Villain bets, Hero calls (3.4sb) 5th: Villain bets, Hero call (3.7BB) 6th: Villain bets, Hero???? Villain is laggy in that he always bets when he has the lead. I've made some thin call downs, but I doubt he is adjusting. Always completes when I bring-in so I think his hole-card range is pretty much ATC Meh, I've been putting down some thoughts and I guess it's a pretty zzzzz standard call... str draw low draw flush draw and it hu i'm raising 6th and ask questions other places u should be happy i'm real bored while playing now and seen this 
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Thursday, November 12th, 2009, 1:39 PM
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Glue Factory Superintendent Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: April 24th, 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 5,283 Favorite Poker Game: Cash Games; HORSE NLHE & NL27 |
QUOTE (staniv @ Wednesday, November 11th, 2009, 11:29 PM) str draw low draw flush draw and it hu i'm raising 6th and ask questions other places u should be happy i'm real bored while playing now and seen this Yeah, no one reads this so I kind of just post whatever here... I have been so bad at retrieving HHs from 7game b/c I've gotten accustomed to having tracker... I am gonna put in some 7game/HORSE volume this week!! -------------------- If you wanna keep your rep up, you know you gotta step up...
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