Ugly Turn Spot

[SwolyswoND 1]

Villain is a TAG, nothing noteworthy in terms of trickiness. Pretty ABC player. In the PLO portion of this 7game table, he flatted my PSB on the AJ6 flop with QQJT, then raised big on a J turn after I led 2/3 pot. On a blank river he checked behind.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG ($67.35)Hero (MP) ($48.85)Button ($51.45)SB ($50)BB ($115.10)Preflop: Hero is MP with K , K 1 fold, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, 2 foldsFlop: ($4.75) 8 , 2 , 10 (2 players)Hero bets $3, Button calls $3Turn: ($10.75) 6 (2 players)Hero bets $8.50, Button raises to $46.45 (All-In), Hero hates this kind of spot.Not sure that he's dumb enough to play AT this way. What's villain's range here?

[tskillz187 0]

Flip a coin? Against some other TAG decent player I think it's a clear cut fold. But those seem like atrocious mistakes in PLO. With some optimism he could have Tx and turned pair + draw hands as well as turned combo draw hands and then all the hands that have you crushed.

[LJB723 0]

I'd call. I'd expect to see one of AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc, 9cTc here. He might even have a sticky 99, JJ or QQ. Although I concede they are less likely.

[Temporary Nuts 1]

SA/WBThis is a set equally if not more often than a combo draw and 9-7. I guess JJ could also show up here sometimes.

[rrumsey 0]

even a TAG can step out of line sometimes. The interesting thing here is it seems the big repop is almost a defensive play , what real hands repop here: 10's, 6's,A's,Q's,J's(K's but very unlikely). Maybe he was playing one of these hands strong to protect against the flush draw and the weird straight draws( straight unlikely) but still flatting or small callable reraise is at least for me a little more scary because he is trying to get value out of his hand. I call because we are betting almost all of the hands that would bet hard to defend itself here but don't be astonished if you do catch a cooler here.

[rrumsey 0]

*beating not betting sorry

[jmbreslin 0]

I'd call. I'd expect to see one of AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc, 9cTc here. He might even have a sticky 99, JJ or QQ. Although I concede they are less likely.

Really depends on how ABC he is and how aggressive he is. If Hero's read is reliable, villain is not likely going to be making that kind of all-in raise on the turn after a dry flop without a big hand. There is no reason for him to put his chips on the line on the turn if he's trying to take the pot away. He could have raised to something like $25 to minimize his risk. From an ABC TAG I think this is more likely a confident move with a big hand (perhaps trying to look like a bluff) than an aggressive move with something like 99, AT, or whatever.

[Fade2241 0]

I am right there with you in that I hate this spot too. This is read dependant as others have said but I don't see myself folding here very often, only folding to a tight villian.

[mtdesmoines 2]

Villain is a TAG, nothing noteworthy in terms of trickiness. Pretty ABC player. In the PLO portion of this 7game table, he flatted my PSB on the AJ6 flop with QQJT, then raised big on a J turn after I led 2/3 pot. On a blank river he checked behind.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG ($67.35)Hero (MP) ($48.85)Button ($51.45)SB ($50)BB ($115.10)Preflop: Hero is MP with K , K 1 fold, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, 2 foldsFlop: ($4.75) 8 , 2 , 10 (2 players)Hero bets $3, Button calls $3Turn: ($10.75) 6 (2 players)Hero bets $8.50, Button raises to $46.45 (All-In), Hero hates this kind of spot.Not sure that he's dumb enough to play AT this way. What's villain's range here?

Hands that beat us:a couple setsAAunlikely straightunlikely two pairHands we beatXT drawsATJJ QQ*******************I don't know .... I can name a couple hands in his range we beat and a couple we don't. It doesn't have to make sense. We've telegraphed our hand and seems like villain is making us choose.I think we can fold unless we have notes that say he's a TPTK monkey.

[Syntonic 0]

I usually call in this spot. A lot of the time it's a pair and a flush draw - people go bananas when they have that hand and overshove hoping to either win on the turn or get lucky on the river.

[DonkSlayer 1]

I think this villain raises most 10x hands on the flop, given his stats and play from the history you gave. I fold.

[trystero 0]

std fold against a std TAG. If this guy doesn't get out of line and just plays ABC poker, as your read indicates that he does, I fold.against a 'regular' TAG I'd call. i.e. if I saw the guy 3-betting lightly and squeezing pf, doing aggro shit like that, I'd call. Yes I know that simply because he plays pf one way doesn't mean he plays postflop the same way, but I would know that his thinking process has probably been influenced by sites like CR and Deucescracked, so he's more liable to make a play, float and then raise a combo draw, or simply overplay a hand like JJ/AT.